1.2tl Wiring Diagram Clarification

xoaphexox
xoaphexox Posts: 246
edited October 2011 in Vintage Speakers
Hey there,

I was looking over the 1.2tl right and left channel wiring diagrams that are uploaded to the sticky in this forum.

My question is this: are they correctly labeled? More specifically:

If standing in front of the right speaker, facing the drivers, are the white (-) wires connected to the "left" side of the 6503 drivers?

If standing in front of the left speaker, facing the drivers, these same white (-) wires connect to the "right" side of the 6503 drivers, that is - they are connected the reverse orientation of the right channel.

I took my drivers out to install new foam gaskets and now that I am looking at these wiring diagrams to put the speakers together I have myself all confused. I want to make sure I put them back together correctly.

I thought that the red dot on the rear of the driver indicated the positive terminal - but if that is the case, then the wiring diagram for the stereo drivers of the right channel is incorrect - as well as the wiring diagram for the dimensional drivers of the left channel.

Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited October 2011
    That would make your drivers Left and Right and there is no such thing, your (-) side will be to your left facing the drivers on both speakers..
  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    So the wiring diagrams are wrong, then?

    Thanks for the quick reply

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited October 2011
    IMO yes they are as the drivers are marked with a red dot for the (+) side and I must correct myself here as the positive will be on the right side as your looking at the back of the driver with the terminals facing the floor..
  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited October 2011
    When ever I work on my SDA speakers I replace things one at a time. If I am changing tweets, I take out the old tweet and immediately replace it with the new one so I don't get confused on what went where. It can be confusing with the different color wires. I hope your project turns out well.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited October 2011
    bluecomet wrote: »
    When ever I work on my SDA speakers I replace things one at a time. If I am changing tweets, I take out the old tweet and immediately replace it with the new one so I don't get confused on what went where. It can be confusing with the different color wires. I hope your project turns out well.

    I have been inside my speakers so many times now I could just about do it with my eyes closed!! LOL!! it's really not that hard anymore..
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,102
    edited October 2011
    I have been inside my speakers so many times now I could just about do it with my eyes closed!! LOL!! it's really not that hard anymore..
    On MY projects, that's about the time I make some stupid mistake that takes me hours--or days--to find and correct.
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,649
    edited October 2011
    When I modded my first vintage Polks them using the BLACK wire for a positive had my head spinning. It was like reprogramming myself lol
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  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    How naive of me to assume a technical diagram produced and approved by the manufacturer of the very speakers they represent would be correctly drawn and labeled!

    In summation:
    Green Wire -
    Blue Wire +
    White Wire -
    Black Wire +
    Red Dot on Driver +

    And ignore all the arrows and "wire marker" labels on the wiring diagrams because half of them are wrong.

    Thanks guys, I will get humpty dumpty back together tonight and give them a test drive.

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    Put the speakers together according to the summary in my last post. I don't hear anything out of the ordinary. It would be nice if Polk would confess to the wiring diagrams being incorrect just to put my mind at complete ease but in the meantime I *think* they are wired correctly.

    Would I be able to tell anything by doing a 9V 'touch' test or would the SDA circuitry interfere with that sort of thing?

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,102
    edited October 2011
    xoaphexox wrote: »
    Would I be able to tell anything by doing a 9V 'touch' test or would the SDA circuitry interfere with that sort of thing?
    Unplug the interconnect, do the "touch test". All drivers should move "out". Any that move "in" are wired incorrectly.

    9-volt, or 1.5 volt? Maybe it doesn't make a difference?
  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    Thanks! I used a 9V and all 16 drivers pushed "out". Sounds like I'm in business. And that confirms the little arrows that indicate where the wires go in the diagram are incorrectly labeled half the time. Best to pay attention to the polarity marking and not the orientation marking.

    Or, as was said, just take out one driver at a time and note its previous wiring :)

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited October 2011
    It would be nice if Polk would confess to the wiring diagrams being incorrect just to put my mind at complete ease but in the meantime I *think* they are wired correctly.

    It's a wiring diagram only in the sense that it shows what color wire and its corresponding polarity goes to what driver, not that the green wire goes to the left terminal and the blue goes to the right. That's why Polk marked the positive terminal with a red dot to make it idiot proof. Hello!
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  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    It's a wiring diagram only in the sense that it shows what color wire and its corresponding polarity goes to what driver, not that the green wire goes to the left terminal and the blue goes to the right. That's why Polk marked the positive terminal with a red dot to make it idiot proof. Hello!

    If you had even looked at the diagrams you would see that they have arrows drawn out pointing to the incorrect terminals on half the drivers on each channel. They could have just listed the polarities and colors of each wire and been done. It's these arrows pointing to the wrong location that threw me for a loop.

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited October 2011
    Don't use a 9volt. It can hurt the drivers if kept on to long. 1.5volt battery is best.
  • xoaphexox
    xoaphexox Posts: 246
    edited October 2011
    Thanks, Joe. I did a very quick test with the 9V this morning and all drivers are operating as expected. I consider my issue satisfactorily closed, with much appreciated help from the great members of the Polk forums!

    Burson HA-160D > Adcom GFA-5802 > Polk SDA-SRS 1.2tl w/ Mye Sound Spikes, Mills/Sonicap XO, Larry's Rings, Dynamat Extreme, Cardas CCGR Binding Posts and Jumpers, Custom 10ga interconnect, Custom Gaskets, RDO-198
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,566
    edited October 2011
    xoaphexox wrote: »
    If you had even looked at the diagrams you would see that they have arrows drawn out pointing to the incorrect terminals on half the drivers on each channel. They could have just listed the polarities and colors of each wire and been done. It's these arrows pointing to the wrong location that threw me for a loop.

    I looked. I also rely on my own common sense. Glad you finally got it figured out.
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    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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