Building interconnects

NJPOLKER
NJPOLKER Posts: 3,474
edited October 2011 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
It has been awhile since I have done anything to my system so I have decided to build myself a couple sets of interconnects. So far my plan is to speak with Jeff at Sonic Craft and have him help me decide which componets I should use. Then simply order them and construct them. I hope it goes that simple
I am aware I can probably buy complete sets at a reasonable cost but I would like to build them myself. The cost should be around $200. for both sets at a length of one meter. I hope the performance is what I want and that is my only real concern. How far wrong can I go?
As usual if you have any suggestions please let me know.
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  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited October 2011
    I built two sets of IC's using Chris VenHaus' recipe here: http://www.venhaus1.com/diysilverinterconnects.html

    They are very, very good, but you must follow his recipe. When I built mine he did not carry the wire, which he now has. You can source cheaper (but not better) wire and save a little money.

    I also built his braided CAT 5 speaker cable, which is labor intensive. It's also quite good.

    Disclaimer: No ties to CVH, only a satisfied customer.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited October 2011
    Make sure to research it and get it right. Usually really good cables have a design (geometry, like twisted pair, etc) and they contain a directional drain and incorporate some sort of shielding. Learn about the dielectric properties of insulation, etc. I would steer clear of silver unless you are familiar with it's brighter sonic signature and like it. Good luck it's sounds like fun. It's different than speaker cables because signal integrity is much more important since the signals you are dealing with are very small.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited October 2011
    look at the Oyaide PAo2,,you can buy the cable and some Vampire RCA's--be sure if you go this route to get the large Vampires--I'll search for a link.

    here

    http://db.audioasylum.com/mhtml/m.html?forum=cables&n=123178&highlight=eduardoo&search_url=%2Fcgi%2Fsearch.mpl%3F
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • drumminman
    drumminman Posts: 3,396
    edited October 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Make sure to research it and get it right. Usually really good cables have a design (geometry, like twisted pair, etc) and they contain a directional drain and incorporate some sort of shielding. Learn about the dielectric properties of insulation, etc. I would steer clear of silver unless you are familiar with it's brighter sonic signature and like it. Good luck it's sounds like fun. It's different than speaker cables because signal integrity is much more important since the signals you are dealing with are very small.

    H9

    Silver can be bright, but it's usually due to construction geometry or materials used. The Finesilvers have extemely low capacitance due to the spiral wound parallel wires that never cross. They also use superior materials such as teflon and ultra pure small gauge silver wire. Hi purity Soft annealed silver is supposed to be even better; the worst silver to use is sterling (too many impurities).

    I've found the Finesilvers to very smoothwith great clarity, and have great tonal balance top to bottom, while producing a stunning soundstage. Of course, YMMV.
    "Science is suppose to explain observations not dismiss them as impossible" - Norm on AA; 2.3TL's w/sonicaps/mills/jantzen inductors, Gimpod's boards, Lg Solen SDA inductors, RD-0198's, MW's dynamatted, Armaflex speaker gaskets, H-nuts, brass spikes, Cardas CCGR BP's, upgraded IC Cable, Black Hole Damping Sheet strips, interior of cabinets sealed with Loctite Power Grab, AI-1 interface with 1000VA A-L transformer
  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited October 2011
    If your not on a budget----Eichmann RCAs.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2011
    drumminman wrote: »
    Silver can be bright, but it's usually due to construction geometry or materials used. The Finesilvers have extemely low capacitance due to the spiral wound parallel wires that never cross. They also use superior materials such as teflon and ultra pure small gauge silver wire. Hi purity Soft annealed silver is supposed to be even better; the worst silver to use is sterling (too many impurities).

    I've found the Finesilvers to very smoothwith great clarity, and have great tonal balance top to bottom, while producing a stunning soundstage. Of course, YMMV.
    I agree, not all silver is bright.
    fbm211 wrote: »
    If your not on a budget----Eichmann RCAs.
    They may not be the sturdiest, but are the best sounding termination I've played with.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
  • quadzilla
    quadzilla Posts: 1,543
    edited October 2011
    I'm rather a fan of the cotton insulated 28 ga UPOCC silver from http://www.vhaudio.com/wire.html for ICs. Run 2 conductors (center and return) through a copper braid from http://www.diycable.com/main/default.php?cPath=89_119_132 (1/4"), then through whatever color techflex you like, terminate with some good silver RCAs, and it makes a helluva cable. Not bright, but very detailed with great extension at the top and bottom end. Just make sure you only terminate the shield at the source end, and then mark the cable with some heat shrink. May run a bit over your price if you follow that formula though. But that's basically how I build mine.

    Your biggest problem with that budget will be the connectors. 8 good RCA connectors alone will easily blow that budget, and the termination makes a huge difference in how a cable sounds.
    Turntable: Empire 208
    Arm: Rega 300
    Cart: Shelter 501 III
    Phono Pre: dsachs consulting
    Digital: Marantz SACD 30n
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    Cables: Cardas Neutral Reference
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited October 2011
    Right on mike.My revelation ICs and RAL cryo prophecy ICs are more refined and warmer sounding than the air matrix cables I use to have.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre