JL Audio Fathom owners

leroyjr1
leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
edited October 2011 in Subwoofer Hookup & Bass Management
Looking to purchase a new sub(s) for my HT/music room and was looking at dual F110's or a single F113. The price on the duals new are $2500 (both) vs $2199 for a new F113. My room size is 16x14 and is sealed in the basement. I like the idea of duals to balance out the bass but I'm wondering how the 10" does for HT. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2011
    i have been looking at trying to build a copy of one. i have still yet to hear them in person tho. they are $$$
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    mole' wrote: »
    i have been looking at trying to build a copy of one. i have still yet to hear them in person tho. they are $$$

    Yeah they're expensive but they scream quality.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2011
    I've only heard the f213 and Gothams, but would definitely consider the f110 pair over a f113.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2011
    Thats a tough call... I have a f112 and am in a 12x18 loft that opens to a staircase and goes to my downstairs area. Even with all the open space, the 12 is more than enough to go with my lsi system. I'd love to have a 2nd woofer, but for the money I spent on just one there wouldn't be enough of a benefit... I'd go with the f113.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    Thats a tough call... I have a f112 and am in a 12x18 loft that opens to a staircase and goes to my downstairs area. Even with all the open space, the 12 is more than enough to go with my lsi system. I'd love to have a 2nd woofer, but for the money I spent on just one there wouldn't be enough of a benefit... I'd go with the f113.

    Was also looking at SVS SB13 new sub. Only $1200 each with free shipping. If I did get the F113 it would be another 6 months before I could afford to get a second one.

    My current budget is $3000 and for $200 more I could get (2) F112's now. How is the HT side of the 12's? Can you feel the bass?

    Thanks
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    Face wrote: »
    I've only heard the f213 and Gothams, but would definitely consider the f110 pair over a f113.

    Did the Gothams sound like a 15k sub?
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited October 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Looking to purchase a new sub(s) for my HT/music room and was looking at dual F110's or a single F113. The price on the duals new are $2500 (both) vs $2199 for a new F113. My room size is 16x14 and is sealed in the basement. I like the idea of duals to balance out the bass but I'm wondering how the 10" does for HT. Your help is greatly appreciated.

    Thanks

    I'm running dual Fathom F113's for around 6 months now and have come to a final decision that there's no need to upgrade to any other sub anymore. My room is 25x16: pic here. The JL Audio subs were paired with the Polk Audio LSi speakers as a 5.2 setup. These JL audio subs shine for both music and HT, and that is what I need!!!
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
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  • toucanet
    toucanet Posts: 580
    edited October 2011
    Two F112's will make you a very happy man!

    What is the rest of the setup going to include?
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2011
    dmara wrote: »
    i'm running dual fathom f113's for around 6 months now and have come to a final decision that there's no need to upgrade to any other sub anymore. My room is 25x16: pic here. The jl audio subs were paired with the polk audio lsi speakers as a 5.2 setup. These jl audio subs shine for both music and ht, and that is what i need!!!

    very nice!!!!!
    mole'
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  • DVOuSS
    DVOuSS Posts: 52
    edited October 2011
    there's a guy on the avsforum, giomania, that is selling a pair of f113s for $3800 or one for $2000....
    Living Room
    Toshiba 55" 240HZ LCD
    Onkyo TX-NR807
    Emotiva XPA-5
    HTPC
    Polk Audio LSi 25 - Mains
    Polk Audio LSiC - Center
    Polk Audio LSi 9 - Surrounds
    DSW microPRO 4000 x2 - Subs

    Media Room
    Mitsubishi 73" DLP
    Onkyo TX-SR875
    HTPC
    2 x JBL Urei S300 Amplifiers
    2 x JBL Urei S150 Amplifiers
    JBL Synthesis Three S3M - Mains
    JBL Synthesis Three S3HC - Center
    JBL Synthesis Three S3S - Subs
    JBL Synthesis Two S2A - Surrounds
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    DVOuSS wrote: »
    there's a guy on the avsforum, giomania, that is selling a pair of f113s for $3800 or one for $2000....

    I seen that and he's only a hour away, but for $200 more I can get a brand new one. Decisions, decisions, decisions.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Did the Gothams sound like a 15k sub?

    It was a pair of them, and yes. :eek:
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2011
    A pair of 12's would be amazing... If I could afford a second one, I may splurge but at the same time, the one I have is enough on it's own. As far as music vs. home theater... it's a wonderful sub in both. As DMara said, once you have one of the JL's you quickly realize that there is no need to even think about "upgrading" or changing subs.

    As expensive as they are, they are worth every penny... sure sounds like you found a good dealer to work with on some of the prices you are throwing out.
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2011
    OH, and make sure to do yourself a favor and get the gloss finish :cheesygrin:
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    OH, and make sure to do yourself a favor and get the gloss finish :cheesygrin:

    Why? Was thinking about saving some money and grabbing the satin.
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  • mole'
    mole' Posts: 3,160
    edited October 2011
    grimmace19 wrote: »
    A pair of 12's would be amazing... If I could afford a second one, I may splurge but at the same time, the one I have is enough on it's own. As far as music vs. home theater... it's a wonderful sub in both. As DMara said, once you have one of the JL's you quickly realize that there is no need to even think about "upgrading" or changing subs.

    As expensive as they are, they are worth every penny... sure sounds like you found a good dealer to work with on some of the prices you are throwing out.

    what sub did you have before?
    mole'
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2011
    Go for the F113, it's the best Sub out there!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2011
    Mole' I originally started out with a psw10 (you can find about 20 threads where I bash it) and then moved to the klipsch sub-12 and then made it a pair later on. Yes, they were all entry subs but on my quest that led me to the JL I can't even name all the others I listened to. The only other sub I gave some consideration to was the Paradigm Sub 12 but when all was said and done, the JL was only 300 more (200 if I went satin) and the paradigm requires an aftermarket purchase of their setup mic which would have evened the price.

    As per my comment on the gloss finish, It's just my preference. I think it looks a lot better with the gloss finish on the LSI's and it's so nicely done that it's got that mirror shine to it. Sure, it's 100 bucks but when you are getting the dealer to work with you on the price, that 100 goes away anyways.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited October 2011
    If you want flat bass response, multiple subs makes much more sense.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Go for the F113, it's the best Sub out there!
    Figured you'd say "go big or go home":smile:
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Figured you'd say "go big or go home":smile:

    Although two of those SVS SB-13 subs would be very good also.
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Although two of those SVS SB-13 subs would be very good also.

    Or your Ultra. Lol
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Or your Ultra. Lol

    I tried to PM you, but your box is Full!
    Send me a PM, there may be a Ultra-13 in your future:cool:
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    Try now
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  • Jason_k
    Jason_k Posts: 110
    edited October 2011
    I have a F113, would love to have dual. If i get the funds, definitely going to buy the second one.
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited October 2011
    Jason_k wrote: »
    I have a F113, would love to have dual. If i get the funds, definitely going to buy the second one.

    Nice!! I'm still debating on dual f110's, single f113, or single svs ultra. I'm having a hard time deciding.
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  • Ern Dog
    Ern Dog Posts: 2,237
    edited October 2011
    I have a single Fathom F110 and use it primarily for music and secondary for HT. It does a stellar job, however, I regret not getting the F112 or even F113. The 10" just doesn't have the muscle to do HT justice. Two subs are typically better than one because the bass is more even (not as many dips/peaks). So my vote would be to get dual F112's.
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited October 2011
    Ern Dog wrote: »
    I have a single Fathom F110 and use it primarily for music and secondary for HT. It does a stellar job, however, I regret not getting the F112 or even F113. The 10" just doesn't have the muscle to do HT justice. Two subs are typically better than one because the bass is more even (not as many dips/peaks). So my vote would be to get dual F112's.

    Agreed!
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
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  • grimmace19
    grimmace19 Posts: 1,429
    edited October 2011
    Any updates Leroy?
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  • 98Badger
    98Badger Posts: 317
    edited October 2011
    Leroy,

    I'll agree with most of the others and say go with the 113. I have the 112 in a similar sized room and it is superb for music. You mentioned also considering a sealed svs. A buddy of mine has the new 12" sealed version. It comes closer to the jl than I expected, but IMO the jl is still the winner. It has the edge in attack and plays a bit lower. Aesthetics are much greater as well. Hope this helps.
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