LSi9 Components

loudmouth
loudmouth Posts: 6
edited October 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
Hello,

I am looking into an integrated amp to run my lsi9's through.

I have $5000 and want the speakers to sound AS GOOD as humanly possible.

Today had a chance to listen to a naim 5i and krell S-300i. Both below budget.

I liked the sound of the 5i. It sounded warm and gave the speakers pleanty of power.

The Krell. Eh. It sounded more mechanical? Idk, but after hearing the 9's on the 5i, I have been hooked on that Naim "House Sound".

So, my question to you is;

Will a Supernait or... Superuniti (or the xs?) be what I am looking for as far as power and options go? (My dealer doesn't carry any of these models)

2 channel only (mostly music via turntable)

sub addition (someday)

optical input for xbox audio (my main dvd/cd audio component)

phono (stageline phonostage)

aux for cable audio.

Maybe a blu-ray player in the future? Maybe a seperate power amp? Depends.

So PLease Please Please! let me know if you have any info on these integrates on hooked up with polk lsi9 speakers.
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  • loudmouth
    loudmouth Posts: 6
    edited October 2011
    Supernait:

    Input Sensitivity

    75mV



    Input Impedance

    47kΩ



    Sample Rates Supported

    S/PDIF up to 24 bit/192kHz



    Other Inputs

    3.5mm jack on front panel



    AUDIO OUTPUTS



    Line Outputs Fixed (level)

    75mV, 600Ω



    Line Outputs Variable (level)

    775mV, <50Ω



    Power Outputs

    Naim phono amplifier



    Other Outputs

    Headphone, 3.5mm jack



    SPEAKER OUTPUTS



    Power Output

    80W/channel, 8Ω



    CONNECTIVITY



    Infra Red

    RC5



    Remote Input

    3.5mm jack on rear (RC5)



    Remote Output

    3.5mm jack on rear (RC5)



    RS232

    Optional (DE9 female)



    POWER



    Mains Supply

    100V, 115V, 230V; 50 or 60Hz



    PHYSICAL



    Dimensions

    87 x 432 x 314mm (H x W x D)





    and Superuniti:





    Analogue Inputs

    1 x 5-pin DIN, 2 x RCA pair, 1 x 3.5mm front panel jack



    Input Sensitivity

    170mV



    Overload Margin

    34dB



    Input Impedance

    47k



    Digital Inputs

    6 x S/PDIF (1 x coaxial BNC, 1 x coaxial RCA, 3 x optical TOSlink, 1 x 3.5mm front panel mini-TOSlink)



    Sample rates maximum

    192kHz (coaxial) 96kHz (optical)



    Bit depths maximum

    24 bits



    UPnP input

    Ethernet (RJ45) and Wi-Fi



    USB/iPod input

    Front panel USB Type-A



    Playlist supported

    M3U and PLS



    FM and DAB input

    F-type



    Tuning Range

    FM 87.5 - 108MHz, DAB Band III and L Band



    iRadio input

    Ethernet (RJ45) and Wi-Fi



    Service provider

    Vtuner 5*



    Minimum Load Impedance

    10kΩ



    FORMATS



    Audio Formats Supported

    WAV and AIFF (up to 32bit/192kHz) FLAC (up to 24bit/192kHz) ALAC (up to 24bit/96kHz) WMA (up to 16bit/48kHz) must be WMA 9.2 Ogg Vorbis (up to 16bit/48kHz) MP3 and M4a (up to 320kbit/s)



    Audio Formats Supported

    WMA, MP3, MMS



    SPEAKER OUTPUTS



    Speaker Outputs

    Stereo (4mm)



    AUDIO OUTPUTS



    Output power

    80Wpc into 8Ω, 120Wpc into 4Ω(0.1% THD both channel driven)



    Frequency Response

    3.5Hz to 34kHz



    Signal To Noise Ratio (S/N ratio)

    85dB



    Crosstalk

    80dB



    Phase Response

    Linear Phase, absolute phase correct



    Headphone outputs

    Stereo (front panel 3.5mm jack)



    Output power

    105mW into 16Ω



    Other analogue outputs

    Preamp output (4-pin DIN), Subwoofer output (RCA pair)



    Digital Outputs (type)

    S/PDIF (coaxial BNC 75Ω)



    USER CONTROL INTERFACES



    Front Panel

    Volume control, logo mute and buttons



    Remote

    Uniti family remote



    iPod/iPhone/iPad

    n-Stream



    AMX & Crestron

    Yes



    CONNECTIVITY



    Infra Red

    Front panel



    Remote Input

    RC5 input (3.5mm rear panel jack)



    Remote Output

    RC5 input (3.5mm rear panel jack)



    RS232

    Updates only (rear panel USB mini-B)



    PRODUCT CERTIFICATIONS & LICENSES



    Certifications

    Apple (Made for iPhone), vTuner Premium



    Licenses

    MP3, AAC, DAB



    POWER



    Mains Supply

    100V, 115V or 230V, 50/60Hz



    Quiescent consumption

    35W



    Maximum consumption

    400VA



    Supplied accessories

    Wi-fi antenna, Uniti family remote handset, batteries, BNC to RCA adaptor,F-type to PAL adaptor, mains lead, speaker plugs.

    I notice that the uniti is 4 ohm rated. I'm not sure but if it is the same with the supernait and they just didn't reveal that it is capable of a 4 ohm load I am definately leaning more towards the supernait. I like the option of upgrading the power supply, (flatcap/hicap/supercap)

    Also, if you want to suggest any other brands/combos i should try, please do.

    I am nothing but confused as this is my first dabble into this wounderful hobby and this will be my first setup. (other than some crappy samsung theater in-a-box christmas present) thank you again and goodday goodsir
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,648
    edited October 2011
    5k? Lsi9?

    I highly recommend replacing the speakers then getting new components.

    No offense to the LSi9 - but if you were to source speakers in the 2k range - you could easily get some 3k components to blow your mind...

    IMO of course - if the LSi9 is a MUST then follow your ears
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,565
    edited October 2011
    I am looking into an integrated amp to run my lsi9's through.

    I have $5000 and want the speakers to sound AS GOOD as humanly possible.


    Musical Fidelity M6 500i integrated amplifier. If you can find one used, it'll fit your budget.
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  • punit
    punit Posts: 8
    edited October 2011
    I would heartily recommend the NAD M3

    http://nadelectronics.com/products/masters-series/M3-Dual-Mono-Integrated-Amplifier

    I would also recommend upgrading the crossovers on the LSI9, I upgraded mine & consider it one of the best audio investments i ever made. Here's a link for the same :

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?97029-Skiing-Ninja-crossover-upgrade
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  • loudmouth
    loudmouth Posts: 6
    edited October 2011
    Ok, Vr3MxStyler2k3, if i were to, say, return my lsi9s, buy some b&w pm1's (first love) for 2k whats a possible component choice for 3k? In my area there is a mcintosh dealer, a marantz dealer and they carry some other products like krell, naim, rotel, parasound, ayre, among others. I would prefer to buy from one of them so I can, you know, get repairs add-ons, special deals, things like that.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,565
    edited October 2011
    Why don't you drag your Polk's down to the dealer and try them out on whatever integrated amps they have on hand.
    return my lsi9s, buy some b&w pm1's (first love)

    Those are about as far apart, sound wise, as you can get. Personally, I've never heard a B&W speaker that I could stand.

    Another thought, there are crossover upgrades that elevate the LSi 9's to a much higher performance level. Perhaps you might want to look into that. Polk also has the new LSiM 703's.
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  • loudmouth
    loudmouth Posts: 6
    edited October 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Why don't you drag your Polk's down to the dealer and try them out on whatever integrated amps they have on hand.

    I did do this and thats where I came to this conclusion: Naim and Krell were nice sounding integates for a reasonable price.

    F1nut wrote: »
    Those are about as far apart, sound wise, as you can get. Personally, I've never heard a B&W speaker that I could stand.

    And I am assuming that is why you are not a part of B&W forums. I bought the lsi9's on a recomendation. they were very cheap and i am not disappointed with the way they sound, thus i felt no reason to return them.
    F1nut wrote: »
    Another thought, there are crossover upgrades that elevate the LSi 9's to a much higher performance level. Perhaps you might want to look into that. Polk also has the new LSiM 703's.
    Like I said, i prefer a B&W speaker to polks, so the new LSiM's wont be in my near future. i have heard several people recomend the crossover upgrade. What exactly happens to the speaker once you do this? It would null and void my warrenty right?
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited October 2011
    The Sim Audio Moon i7 integrated you can find used in the $3500 range. Better resolution than Musical Fidelity units IMHO. Then put the rest towards upgrading the LSi9 x-over for $600 with the Skiing Ninja x-overs, or by one of the good polkers. Sticking with the stock LSi9's is truly limiting your sonic experience with the financial investment you're about to make.

    Very very few speakers need warranty repair unless you plan on running pure distortion or plan on blasting them with weak amplification at ridiculous volume levels thru the speakers. With the x-over the 9's high end opens up tremendously, demonstrating the true quality of the Vifa tweeter. The mids and bass become more resolving. It's worth every penny.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,648
    edited October 2011
    I hate to say this but you are seriously limiting your options by sticking with local dealers in this respect...

    Salk Sound, Tyler Acoustics, Odyssey Audio, GR Research, Nuforce, Monarchy Audio, VMPS is just a few in a pool of many low cost high performance out there...

    The Polk LSiM would be an excellent basis for a system of that caliber - I just think you can do much better than the LSi9 if you are willing to sink that much $$$ into the gear to support it...

    The used market really opens up the options even further...

    Im sure for what would equate to 6 grand you could find a setup that would rock your world...

    At one point I had the following -

    Tyler Acoustics Taylo 7u - 2600
    Odyssey Candela - 1200
    Odyssey Stratos Extreme Monoblocks - 1500
    Shanling CDT-100 CDP - 1000

    Thats - 6300

    Just an example - but there are so many options out there and gear can be had cheap... companies like Odyssey offer a 20 year transferable warranty

    Bryston is another good one...

    Pass Labs - etc etc
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