strange squeezebox occurance

sda2mike
sda2mike Posts: 3,131
edited October 2011 in The Clubhouse
got me some pink floyd remastered...i used wmp to rip...no trouble...in the sb library, the song order is all jacked up...as you know, that just wont do on any pf cd...i'm out of ideas...before anyone tells me to go to the sb forum, forget it...you get a prop-head response, then nothing...been there..anyway, back to the song-order malady...any ideas??


thanks
mike
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,493
    edited September 2011
    It's been my experience that squeezebox just follows orders from the rip and info on the tags.
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited September 2011
    same here...it's only recent that it's occurred...i'll check the shuffle
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    Sounds like a tagging issue. SQB only deciphers what's encoded in the ID3 tag of the digital file, as Rich said.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited September 2011
    that makes sense, of course...as the cd is ripping, i watch the progress..it goes in order...in the wma files, the song order is fine...that's why it's wierd...all of a sudden, too..btw, the pink floyd remasters are killer
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    sda2mike wrote: »
    that makes sense, of course...as the cd is ripping, i watch the progress..it goes in order...in the wma files, the song order is fine...that's why it's wierd...all of a sudden, too..btw, the pink floyd remasters are killer

    I doesn't matter what the file name is or the order it's ripped in Windows, all that matters is the ID3 tag and those settings are in the ripping program.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2011
    Did someone say squeezebox?

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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited September 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I doesn't matter what the file name is or the order it's ripped in Windows, all that matters is the ID3 tag and those settings are in the ripping program.

    H9

    ok....so within wma there are settings....duh....thanks, brock!
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited September 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Did someone say squeezebox?

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/49H0IfoILwQ&quot; frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    good one! i was up, not all night but past my bedtime...and the sb is mine not mama's
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited October 2011
    got it figured out....WAV does not have tags, apparently..this, helps with song order among other things....so, i ripped in WM lossless..order has been restored;)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2011
    ID3 tags are the "lifeblood" of a digital library. WAV files have to be manually tagged, ie, you can't use one of the automatic tagging services like FreeCDDB, etc. You could go into Media Monkey and tag the WAV file yourself manually, but if you have a lot, it's a PITA.

    I guess I just assumed everyone knew about the importance of ID3 tagging when ripping digital files. It's universal.

    Also as I said before, a "FILE NAME" in Windows is NOT the same as an ID3 Tag.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited October 2011
    yeah you can assume the worst with me...not sure why i started using wav...i really didn't have troubles until i switched computers. then, i started to use wmp for ripping...that's when the song order malady arose...now it's fine...i'm using wm lossless..just got me a backup hard drive, so i'm not completely clueless;)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited October 2011
    If you are letting wmp tag the files for you, make sure it's configured how you want it. The default settings I'm sure will do the job, but double check them. wmp uses an outside free service on the net to pull in the track info.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • sda2mike
    sda2mike Posts: 3,131
    edited October 2011
    that's correct...then you can confirm the album info they found..then continue ripping..

    thanks h9
    mike
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