You're killing me..with your phone

rebuy
rebuy Posts: 695
edited September 2011 in The Clubhouse
I like phones as much as the next chap but is everyone listening to their music from a phone? People all over seem to be happy with tunes on the phone and not just the kids either. This kid the other day ask me to listen to this song and played his phone for me. Groovy I thought, I ask him if he listens to all his music on the phone. He has ear buds to make it sound better. I ask him if he listens to uncompressed music and he replied, "what's that"?

Then the 30 somethings are getting off on their phones too, big time. Seems around here, people get their music from the phone and use a HTIB for sound at home. Things are really getting bad.
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited September 2011
    Thats why im happy that i was born when there were no cell phones, and you only had 3 tv stations,, local of course,,
    Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited September 2011
    How does what someone else does with their phone have any effect on you?

    I don't get it.
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited September 2011
    How does what someone else does with their phone have any effect on you?

    I don't get it.

    I'm with you.

    I listen to music on my phone when I'm taking a shower or cooking dinner...that's about it though. I agree that phones sound like s$!t compared to just about anything else, but you can't exactly carry around a set of decent speakers everywhere you go.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited September 2011
    If people want to buy Bose or listen to music on their phones or buy those HTiB systems at Walmart what business of it is mine? I don't do those things, but unless someone is forcing me to do those against my will I could care less.
  • Serendipity
    Serendipity Posts: 6,975
    edited September 2011
    If people want to buy Bose or listen to music on their phones or buy those HTiB systems at Walmart what business of it is mine? I don't do those things, but unless someone is forcing me to do those against my will I could care less.

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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2011
    In the long run, it may have one effect on all of us. The disappearance of physical media, and the inability to get a lot of the music you like in an uncompressed format.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited September 2011
    I've been hearing that for years, and the situation is no worse now than it was 5 years ago. There will always be enough of a demand that we'll be able to get a high quality format for music.
  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited September 2011
    I've been hearing that for years, and the situation is no worse now than it was 5 years ago. There will always be enough of a demand that we'll be able to get a high quality format for music.
    Good point, Just as young folks discover classic rock, they well also discover the best way to hear it,, im just saying life was a lot less cluttered with all this junk, when i was young,,
    Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited September 2011
    Things are getting bad? Really? As if the world was just CRAWLING with audiophiles for the past 50 years, and all of a sudden they are dying off? There are far more people who care about high-quality audio now than there have ever been, thanks largely to technology - both the technology to recreate great sound, but also the technology to educate the people who care to be educated.

    Things aren't getting bad for the likes of you, they're getting better, you just choose to focus on the bad.
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  • drselect
    drselect Posts: 664
    edited September 2011
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    In the long run, it may have one effect on all of us. The disappearance of physical media, and the inability to get a lot of the music you like in an uncompressed format.
    Guess I shouldn't go buy a TT then.:confused:
  • bruss
    bruss Posts: 1,039
    edited September 2011
    My phone sounds rather decent with my earbuds. Am I at home in front of my system? No. But im still jammin out ignoring all the idiots around me
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2011
    I've been hearing that for years, and the situation is no worse now than it was 5 years ago. There will always be enough of a demand that we'll be able to get a high quality format for music.

    It's much worse than it was 5 years ago for physical media:

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/02/news/companies/napster_music_industry/

    There is nowhere here to even buy CD's locally, except used. I'm not saying they will disappear right away, but eventually if sales are slow enough, they will quit making them.
  • ryanjoachim
    ryanjoachim Posts: 2,046
    edited September 2011
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    It's much worse than it was 5 years ago for physical media:

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/02/news/companies/napster_music_industry/

    There is nowhere here to even buy CD's locally, except used. I'm not saying they will disappear right away, but eventually if sales are slow enough, they will quit making them.

    Physical media has nothing to do with the quality of the music/sound...so I'm not sure how this means that it'll be "harder" to get high-quality sources. If anything, it'll make it a lot easier, since companies won't have to spend money making SACD's and instead can just offer the same lossless files for online download.
    MrNightly wrote: »
    "Dr Dunn admitted that his research could also be interpreted as evidence that women are shallower than men. He said: "Let's face it - there's evidence to support it."
    mystik610 wrote: »
    Best Buy is for people who don't know any better. Magnolia is for people who don't know any better and have more money to spend.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2011
    drselect wrote: »
    Guess I shouldn't go buy a TT then.:confused:

    as long as you don't mind buying most of your music used, no reason not to buy one. Other than all the clicks and pops.
  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2011
    Physical media has nothing to do with the quality of the music/sound...so I'm not sure how this means that it'll be "harder" to get high-quality sources. If anything, it'll make it a lot easier, since companies won't have to spend money making SACD's and instead can just offer the same lossless files for online download.

    I hope you are right, but so far, I'd say less than 2% of the collection I have is available for uncompressed download. And since the general public seems happy with MP3's, I don't think that will change soon.
  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited September 2011
    Bottom line, there isn't a single piece of music out of the 4500 albums or so that I own that isn't available on either CD or an uncompressed digital format, not a single album.

    You can SAY they won't be available soon, and I can SAY that the world is going to end in 2012, but neither is more likely at this point in time.

    This 'fear' that we're going to be taken over by mp3 has been around for almost 10 years now, and yet here we still are with CDs and lossless audio. Hell if anything, it's easier to find music on vinyl now than it was 10 years ago...
  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited September 2011
    rebuy wrote: »
    I like phones as much as the next chap but is everyone listening to their music from a phone? People all over seem to be happy with tunes on the phone and not just the kids either. This kid the other day ask me to listen to this song and played his phone for me. Groovy I thought, I ask him if he listens to all his music on the phone. He has ear buds to make it sound better. I ask him if he listens to uncompressed music and he replied, "what's that"?

    Then the 30 somethings are getting off on their phones too, big time. Seems around here, people get their music from the phone and use a HTIB for sound at home. Things are really getting bad.

    I'm with the others on this, why should it bother you?
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  • BeefJerky
    BeefJerky Posts: 1,320
    edited September 2011
    rebuy wrote: »
    I like phones as much as the next chap but is everyone listening to their music from a phone? People all over seem to be happy with tunes on the phone and not just the kids either. This kid the other day ask me to listen to this song and played his phone for me. Groovy I thought, I ask him if he listens to all his music on the phone. He has ear buds to make it sound better. I ask him if he listens to uncompressed music and he replied, "what's that"?

    Then the 30 somethings are getting off on their phones too, big time. Seems around here, people get their music from the phone and use a HTIB for sound at home. Things are really getting bad.
    I don't see the problem either. When I'm not in the house or car I listen to music via my phone. Also, not all phones sound horrible; my phone (Samsung Droid Charge) actually uses a fairly high quality Wolfson DAC, and when combined the Voodoo Sound Control it sounds quite good.

    And when I'm in the car I listen to music off an iPod being controlled by my head unit. It uses the iPod's average quality DAC to do the conversion and is fed via analog to the head unit. Lord have mercy! How dare I?

    To offend your sensibilities further, even when at home I will sometimes listen to music compressed with lossy codecs via Winamp for the sake of convenience. It can be more trouble than it is worth to put on a record or CD sometimes. Not to mention having to get up and flip records or switch CD's.

    To put it simply, it boils down to convenience. I don't want to carry around a CD player and book of CD's everywhere to listen to my music. I can use a single small device that can hold all (or a good portion) of my music collection. This necessitates the use of lossy codecs in my case, which is something I can accept.

    At any rate, rebuy, I don't plan on changing my current habits to satisfy you or anyone else. In fact, I'm not even sure why I bothered with this explanation, since there is no need to defend or explain myself. I doubt that it will have any effect on your mindset anyway.
  • zombie boy 2000
    zombie boy 2000 Posts: 6,641
    edited September 2011
    Thats why im happy that i was born when there were no cell phones, and you only had 3 tv stations,, local of course,,

    And I'm sure your parents were much happier when there was only a radio... and their parents were happier when they could just watch the grass grow... and generations before that were pining over the days spent crawling out of the primordial ooze.

    Oh, to leave one's stamp upon this great blue marble. Existential television and telephones. I weep for the future.
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited September 2011
    Thats why im happy that i was born when there were no cell phones, and you only had 3 tv stations,, local of course,,

    And I'm sure your parents were much happier when there was only a radio... and their parents were happier when they could just watch the grass grow... and generations before that were pining over the days spent crawling out of the primordial ooze.

    Oh, to leave one's stamp upon this great blue marble. Existential television and telephones. I weep for the future.
    Bravo, now your talking, My point was it just seemed like a simpler time, just my OP, didnt say it to start a debate, dont let it rub ya the wrong way, jimmy.
    Not an Audiophile, just a dude who loves music, and decent gear to hear it with.
  • rebuy
    rebuy Posts: 695
    edited September 2011
  • cfrizz
    cfrizz Posts: 13,415
    edited September 2011
    I don't care what anyone else does or how they listen to their music. I do like that fact that they are listening to music, that is the
    most important fact.

    Life is built on change, everything basically changes. A great many of those changes are about making life and things easier for us.
    Being able to listen to music, read books, etc. just about anywhere we want to is a great improvement.

    Enjoy your music the way that you want to Rebuy & let others enjoy it their way since it has zero impact on your life. Live & let live.
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  • WilliamM2
    WilliamM2 Posts: 4,773
    edited September 2011
    You can SAY they won't be available soon, and I can SAY that the world is going to end in 2012, but neither is more likely at this point in time.

    I never said soon, I never even said it was certain:
    In the long run, it may have one effect on all of us.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,501
    edited September 2011
    WilliamM2 wrote: »
    In the long run, it may have one effect on all of us. The disappearance of physical media, and the inability to get a lot of the music you like in an uncompressed format.

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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited September 2011
    Physical media has nothing to do with the quality of the music/sound...so I'm not sure how this means that it'll be "harder" to get high-quality sources. If anything, it'll make it a lot easier, since companies won't have to spend money making SACD's and instead can just offer the same lossless files for online download.

    This is what is trending and will be more and more. If someone wants physical media they can make their own CD, or Bluray for high-res files. You can guarantee that high-res files, along with MP3s, will be available to download. After all, the record companies can charge more for better quality files, and they will not pass up that opportunity.
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