upgraded lsi15 with sonic caps and mills res.

deseroner
deseroner Posts: 155
edited September 2011 in Speakers
so i did the sonic caps and mills upgrade, not the 2 130 uf/39 uf upgrade yet.waiting for parts. already can hear the clarity ,compared to stock lsi15.
and also i only have 10 hours into breaking in only so far.
i made a video ,can anyone hear the difference,recorded with dsc-tx7,
left speaker is the modded one , right speaker stock lsi15. video starts with right first.the clicking in video is me swithcing a to b on my parasound 2250.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CP6eSTKs64
second video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrHdCE9cLpI
receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    ok i just added the axon true caps , how long is the breakin process for the sonic caps, axon true caps and mills resitors. i notice less static and more clarity . i also notice the upper driver and lower are slightly down a few db , 2 db.i am using a db meter anyone know if this will go away ( meaning louder )after break in .
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2011
    There should not be a 2db difference. What kind of meter are you using? Were the mic and speaker positions untouched before and after the mods, anything in the immediate area around the mic or speaker moved too? There are a lot of variables, especially if you're using a Rat Shack meter.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    Face wrote: »
    There should not be a 2db difference. What kind of meter are you using? Were the mic and speaker positions untouched before and after the mods, anything in the immediate area around the mic or speaker moved too? There are a lot of variables, especially if you're using a Rat Shack meter.
    ok i did a different test, i tested on my onkyo speaker calibration setup screen , they are both 90db even , i was testing on a song, maybe thats not the best way to test it. i am a little inpatient, acon true caps only have 1 hour and sonic caps have 18 hours on them.
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2011
    Relax, and enjoy them as they're breaking in.

    I did a top to bottom LSi15 upgrade for someone, caps, coils, and resistors. It was a nice difference.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    OK I FIGURED OUT WHAT WAS WRONG, I COMBINED ONE SIDE TOGETHER, AND RAN THE WIRE ON THE OTHER SIDE, I STACKED 91UF AND 39 UF TOGETHER.UNDID THAT SOUNDS BEAUTIFUL NOW. :biggrin:
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • JimAckley
    JimAckley Posts: 1,138
    edited September 2011
    LOL... Glad you got it figured out buddy. It's amazing (and kinda sad) how much of a negative effect the stock xovers have on these speakers in comparison to aftermarket components. A couple hundred bucks turns them into a speaker that runs circles around the OEM version.
    - Computer Rig -
    YAΘIN MS-20L, polkaudio RT5

    - Main Rig -
    Pioneer SC-37, Overnight Sensations, Samsung 52" LCD

    - Currently In Progress -
    Curt Campbell's Uluwatu LCR, LMS Ultra Gjallarhorn, JBL W15GTi stereo subs, 2.1 entertainment system for the gf
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  • newsman
    newsman Posts: 203
    edited September 2011
    I think Polk should release upgraded crossover for enthusiasts. Of course they wouldn't do that for many reasons ;)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited September 2011
    Come on, it's not that hard to figure out. :P

    LSi15%20Crossover%20After.jpg
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited September 2011
    face wrote: »
    come on, it's not that hard to figure out. :p

    lsi15%20crossover%20after.jpg

    holy monkey tails!
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  • JimAckley
    JimAckley Posts: 1,138
    edited September 2011
    Lol...

    And newsman, that would've made our lives too easy, and would've made these speakers too good haha. When are you gonna mod yours?
    - Computer Rig -
    YAΘIN MS-20L, polkaudio RT5

    - Main Rig -
    Pioneer SC-37, Overnight Sensations, Samsung 52" LCD

    - Currently In Progress -
    Curt Campbell's Uluwatu LCR, LMS Ultra Gjallarhorn, JBL W15GTi stereo subs, 2.1 entertainment system for the gf
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    thats what i need, for what setup is this for.
    Face wrote: »
    Come on, it's not that hard to figure out. :P

    LSi15%20Crossover%20After.jpg
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • jmos
    jmos Posts: 40
    edited September 2011
    I'd be happy to pay for an upgrade kit/package if Polk made one available?
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    here is a pic, i left the axon true caps on the outside. DSC02380.jpg
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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  • McLoki
    McLoki Posts: 5,231
    edited September 2011
    Ummm - Why didn't you put those in the cabinet?
    Mains.............Polk LSi15 (Cherry)
    Center............Polk LSiC (Crossover upgraded)
    Surrounds.......Polk LSi7 (Gloss Black - wood sides removed and crossovers upgraded)
    Subwoofers.....SVS 25-31 CS+ and PC+ (both 20hz tune)
    Pre\Pro...........NAD T163 (Modded with LM4562 opamps)
    Amplifier.........Cinepro 3k6 (6-channel, 500wpc@4ohms)
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,217
    edited September 2011
    Wow..............just WOW! What a mess

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • deseroner
    deseroner Posts: 155
    edited September 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Wow..............just WOW! What a mess

    H9

    i will once i finish the second speaker, lol i know it is a mess, but it is solid no movement, did some riging.
    receiver- pioneer elite sc-37 thx ultra w/kimber kable.pk14.
    mains-lsi15 4ohm 250w modified&db840 nordost blueheaven spk/rca
    center : snell xa1900 4ohm 250w,nordost flatline
    subs-klipsch-ksw10/athena asp-4100
    rear-OWM3 - 8ohm 100w
    surrounds-klipsch rs-7 150w
    amp-5ch.-aragon 3005 thx ultra 2 nordost blue heaven ls pc
    power.c-bpt cpc/ps.soloist ci.
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