Nakamichi CA-7A and ST-7 Cable

adcomcyclone
adcomcyclone Posts: 49
edited March 2012 in 2 Channel Audio
I have purchased quite a number of new items recently, including a Nakamichi CA-7A, an original Nak remote for the preamp, and a ST-7 tuner. Neither of the units included a remote cable to connect the tuner to the preamp. I haven't recieved the CA-7A yet, but just got the tuner today.

Does anyone know if this is just a standard din cable (7 pin I believe), or does this require a proprietary Nak cable?

While I am asking, the tuner didn't have a power cord, will a monoprice 14 G power cord suffice for this?

Any input will be helpful!

On a side note, I got another CA-5 II and a CA-1 in the deal with the tuner, now I have to figure out what to do with them. May end up replacing my Onkyo AVR with the Nak and get a PA-1 amp to go with it. I almost never use any of the features on the Onkyo, and I have an upconverting DVD player, so can't see any reason not to do this.
2 Channel
Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

Home Theatre
Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)


Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
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  • adcomcyclone
    adcomcyclone Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    Oh well, bad news. Got the CA-7A, and the volume control was damaged, so going back to seller. Have to find another one to go along with the tuner and NOS remote I got.

    If anyone has input on the connecting cord from the preamp to the ST-7 tuner, I would really appreciate your input. I am assuming it is just a 7 pin DIN cable, but again, want to make sure it isn't a NAK proprietary configuration that I am not aware of.
    2 Channel
    Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

    Home Theatre
    Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
    Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)


    Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    That is a killer pre-amp, my favorite back in the day when I sold Nakamichi. I hope the seller takes it back, because I believe parts like that motorized volume control are hard to come by.

    I can't remember if a std. DIN cable will work, that was a long time ago when I sold that stuff new in the audio store. Keep scrounging on the 'net, I'm sure that question has been asked before.

    Knowing NAK, it probably was proprietary, but I just can't remember.

    Good luck...........it's a shame when gear like that gets damaged.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited September 2011
    Would a picture help H9. I don't think they are standard but I am not real good with this type of cable.

    CA-7A_b.jpg
  • adcomcyclone
    adcomcyclone Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    Joe, thanks for posting the picture. I haven't been able to get around to getting one taken. I didn't really notice it until I looked at your pic, but the Tuner seems to be 7 pin (no center pin), but the rest of the remote outputs look to be an 8 pin (with the center pin). Interesting.

    Fortunately the seller is being good about it. He offered to even pay to have a shop repair it, but as you mentioned H9, parts are likely really tough to get, and I have never taken any gear to shops around here, so it would be a total shot in the dark in finding one locally that was qualified to repair it....if they could find the part.

    I will keep looking for another one, they come up pretty regularly, and also see if I can find anything about the remote connection cables. I have done a number of searches, but to no avail so far.
    2 Channel
    Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

    Home Theatre
    Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
    Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)


    Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited September 2011
    That is a killer preamp, shame it got damaged :frown:

    It looks like a European model to me. I'd keep it and try to fix the volume control, Yamaha made a similair one in the MX series preamps, I bet it's just like theirs.
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  • adcomcyclone
    adcomcyclone Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    I thought about keeping it and trying to get it fixed, bit would rather not risk it and find one that doesn't need repaired. They come around every once in a while.

    Just have to be patient until another decent one pops up.
    2 Channel
    Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

    Home Theatre
    Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
    Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)


    Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited September 2011
    stuwee wrote: »
    That is a killer preamp, shame it got damaged :frown:

    It looks like a European model to me. I'd keep it and try to fix the volume control, Yamaha made a similair one in the MX series preamps, I bet it's just like theirs.

    It is leaps and bounds better sounding and better build than the Yammy
    I thought about keeping it and trying to get it fixed, bit would rather not risk it and find one that doesn't need repaired. They come around every once in a while.

    Just have to be patient until another decent one pops up.

    IIRC, the Nak uses a motorized Alps pot, perhaps they have a modern equivalent that might work. It's worth atleast investigating

    CA-7E is the Euro model if IIRC, CA-7 is for America and other non-Euro countries and CA-7A is an America model only. Going completely on memory here.

    Another ultra cool feature of the CA-7A is the ability to remotely control the manual azimuth of the Nak decks that utilized an adjustable azimuth control, like the CR-5A and CR-7A. The Dragon had automatic azimuth adjustment. That's just plain cool :cool:

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • hukkfinn
    hukkfinn Posts: 3
    edited October 2011
    Does anybody know:
    1. What the difference between a CA-7 and a CA-7 mk ii would be?
    2. Whether the CA-7 sounds better than the CA-5? Or is the difference just more features?
    Thanks!
    Hukk
  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited October 2011
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  • 1952scott
    1952scott Posts: 2
    edited March 2012
    Did you get anywhere finding a replacement Pot for the CA7? Mine has just given up the ghost. It still works manually, but you can't adjust the volume remotely. I am told this is a common failing on the CA7. I understand that there is a very complex gearing mechanism inside.
  • 1952scott
    1952scott Posts: 2
    edited March 2012
    the 7 is definitely superior. I have had both.
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited March 2012
    Is the CA-7 remote controllable and does it have tone controls. Because I have a CA-5 that is a passive only pre (so hopefully you can bypass all that extra circuitry on the 7 if it does have it).

    As for the CA-5, it adds next to "nothing" to the sound of your amp! So it's a great choice for a budget pre that rivals units costing a lot more.

    cnh
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