3.6's in the hizouse

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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    stuwee wrote: »
    Other than the ceiling height, that's a great room for those Maggies!! You may want to lose the other speakers behind them, and move the 1.7's more towards the listening area along that wall (used as a soundtrap) and play with the throw rug placement. Just my armchair QB advice :smile:

    Thanks for the suggestions.:smile:

    I just moved the 1.7's out of the room. I want to move the SDA's out, but I'm not ready for that break-up. The 3.6's will have to prove themselves more before I'm ready to live SDA-less.:wink:

    I've got a couple rugs down in front of the speakers, but I really think these ceiling panels are going to do the trick, or at least I hope they are.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    dkg999 wrote: »
    My 1.6's already sound better than the 1.7's and I haven't been motivated yet to modify the x-overs. I'm not a fan of the 1.7's, they have some issues in my opinion. I'm not sure why anyone would strive to have their 1.6's sound more like 1.7's?

    What's your beef with the 1.7's? Just curious, I think they're frickin sweet!:biggrin:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    madmax wrote: »
    You may want to get rid of that table, a big flat surface like that could cause problems with the sound. Those look awesome!

    The table isn't too bad because my stool is pretty high, so from the seated position I have a direct line to the entire length of the speakers (see attached pic). I'm sure it makes a difference, but it has to stay.

    I am an artist, and one of the ways I convince myself to spend money on gear is that the music motivates me when I work; if I lose the table, I lose that all important selling angle. :wink:
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited September 2011
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    I've got a couple rugs down in front of the speakers, but I really think these ceiling panels are going to do the trick, or at least I hope they are.

    they are a good idea as is leaving your polks behind the panels....its great to see someone moving up. Those Maggie's are great and may very well change the way you feel about box speakers forever.

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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    Nice. You are getting your hi-fi on for sure.

    RT1

    Yea, thanks in a huge part to y'all sons of ****. I swear, a couple years ago I would have been perfectly content with much less... not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.:confused:
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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2011
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    I am an artist, and one of the ways I convince myself to spend money on gear is that the music motivates me when I work; if I lose the table, I lose that all important selling angle. :wink:

    Good reason! Often you get a reflection from such a surface, usually from a coffee table in a living room, only reason I mentioned it.
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  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited September 2011
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    The table isn't too bad because my stool is pretty high, so from the seated position I have a direct line to the entire length of the speakers (see attached pic). I'm sure it makes a difference, but it has to stay.

    I am an artist, and one of the ways I convince myself to spend money on gear is that the music motivates me when I work; if I lose the table, I lose that all important selling angle. :wink:

    Nice!

    No product placement though :frown:, whatcho drinkin'? :tongue:
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited September 2011
    falconcry72 wrote: »
    What's your beef with the 1.7's? Just curious, I think they're frickin sweet!:biggrin:

    After some serious comparison and a very generous trade offer from my dealer, I came to the conclusion that the new drivers and the integration between them wasn't all that. My 1.6's with Mye Stands may not have the bass output of the 1.7's, but I fix that with a good sub integration that has better bass than the 1.7's, however I feel the driver integration is much better on the 1.6's. IMHO there just isn't really a compelling enough improvement to switch.

    If you didn't own Magnepans the 1.7 is a very appealing speaker to probably a wider audience than the 1.6. I understand what Magnepan was trying to achieve. Even Magnepan IIRC has said the 1.7 isn't really intended to get 1.6 owners to switch.
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited September 2011
    Slide that beer bottle about 1.782" to the left, it's messing up imaging.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Slide that beer bottle about 1.782" to the left, it's messing up imaging.

    Ha. I don't think the placement of the bottle messes up imaging as much as the effects of the contents!:smile:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited September 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    Slide that beer bottle about 1.782" to the left, it's messing up imaging.

    Finish drinking it though and it solves the imaging problems... and every other problem for the short future :tongue:
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    Ceiling panels are up. I was right; they had more of an effect than any of the other panels... or I guess I should say they stopped the ceiling from having so much of an effect.:wink: This probably wouldn't be true in a lot of rooms with a lot of speakers, but my ceilings are only 7.5', and the damn maggies are 6'.

    Time for cold beer and music.:cool:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited September 2011
    Good job on the treatments! Nice to see. My speakers are over 6 foot tall, but fortunately for me my ceiling is 14'. I just have to trap mine from behind.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    Good job on the treatments! Nice to see. My speakers are over 6 foot tall, but fortunately for me my ceiling is 14'. I just have to trap mine from behind.

    Thanks, man!:biggrin:

    Yea 14' is nice; no need to treat at all!
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • madmax
    madmax Posts: 12,434
    edited September 2011
    This is helping the large area of the table in the room. :)
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    madmax wrote: »
    This is helping the large area of the table in the room. :)

    Ha. Table shmable...
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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited September 2011
    I can do two setups in my room. Like yours, with speakers symmetrical to corners but with the listening position open to the main level. The closest wall behind the listening position is ~20 feet away. I had to stack two GIK Tri-Traps (8 feet tall) in each corner to get a handle on the bass. Three GIK 244 bass traps are on stands behind the speakers. I also have a coffee table between me and the speakers. Gotta have some place to put your feet, the beer and remote, right?:biggrin:

    My West wall setup has the right speaker open to the main level; only the left speaker is near a room corner. I don't need as much treatment on that wall, but I can't set them into the room too deep and I end up with a glass wall behind the listening position.

    I have two audio life's; BT (Before Treatment) and AT (After Treatment). AT is definitely better.
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    SCompRacer wrote: »
    I can do two setups in my room. Like yours, with speakers symmetrical to corners but with the listening position open to the main level. The closest wall behind the listening position is ~20 feet away. I had to stack two GIK Tri-Traps (8 feet tall) in each corner to get a handle on the bass. Three GIK 244 bass traps are on stands behind the speakers. I also have a coffee table between me and the speakers. Gotta have some place to put your feet, the beer and remote, right?:biggrin:

    My West wall setup has the right speaker open to the main level; only the left speaker is near a room corner. I don't need as much treatment on that wall, but I can't set them into the room too deep and I end up with a glass wall behind the listening position.

    I have two audio life's; BT (Before Treatment) and AT (After Treatment). AT is definitely better.

    Nice. I like that you have two completely different setups. I've found that I prefer different speakers for different recordings, so I'd imagine I'd prefer different gear for different recordings as well. I had been switching back and forth between maggie 1.6's and SDA-1C's, but, for now, I'm pretty much listening to the 3.6's full time.

    Are your two setups purposefully very different sounding to accentuate different aspects of different recordings? Or do you just get bored and like to have different toys around to play with?:tongue:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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  • SCompRacer
    SCompRacer Posts: 8,500
    edited September 2011
    I have two setups cause the wife isn't too happy with one of them. Her recliner gets moved with the South wall setup which kind of puts the early morning sun in her eyes while she sips her coffee. I usually only do the South wall with large group music meets, or to show my defiance.:biggrin:

    The South wall setup rules for depth of the sound stage (speakers further away from wall) and more focused imaging due to the large amount of treatments cancelling much of the dipoles rear wave. Most folks that heard both prefer the South wall setup, but the West wall ain't shabby by any means. I can't say either setup changes the presentation of the same recording other than what I mentioned.

    If Jay (agfrost) pops over here Sunday, I'll do the South wall setup and ask him what he hears different. He has just heard the West wall setup two or three times. It's about time for me to be brave again anyway...
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  • falconcry72
    falconcry72 Posts: 3,580
    edited September 2011
    Her recliner gets moved with the South wall setup which kind of puts the early morning sun in her eyes while she sips her coffee.

    The Horror!:eek:
    It's about time for me to be brave again anyway...

    Man, she's really got you on a long leash there, doesn't she? You rebel...:tongue:
    2-Channel: PC > Schiit Eitr > Audio Research DAC-8 > Audio Research LS-26 > Pass Labs X-250.5 > Magnepan 3.7's

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