monitor70 channel lvel

vlad.k
vlad.k Posts: 12
edited September 2011 in Speakers
Hi everyone !
Recently got monitor70`s and psw505. I set fronts to large , center to small plus sub.it sounds good for some songs but for other fronts sound too boomy . highs and mids are very fine but lows just dont sound right .Ive tried to set them to small - didnt like it either .
So , i was thinking if theres a way to adjust its channel level somehow .with same setting (fronts-large,center-small,sub-plus) make fronts sound less boomy ,cleaner

avr pioneer vsx821k

Thanks in advance
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  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited September 2011
    What are your crossover settings? You are probably overlapping too much with the 70's set to large, with a sub. (Not that you can't do both, but you don't want them playing the same frequencies)
    65" Sony X900 (XBR-65X900E)
    Pioneer Elite SC-37
    Polk Monitor 70's (2)
    Polk Monitor 40's (4)
    Polk Monitor CS2
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    Oppo BDP-93
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  • Loud & Clear
    Loud & Clear Posts: 1,538
    edited September 2011
    I've tried to run mains large before with a sub and I never found it pleasing. Always preferred setting all speakers to small. Ultimately I decided to run two subs in the home theater; one next to each main speaker.

    Two Channel Setup:

    Speakers: Wharfedale Opus 2-3
    Integrated Amp: Krell S-300i
    DAC: Arcam irDac
    Source: iMac
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    3.2 Home Theater Setup:

    Fronts: Klipsch RP-160M
    Center: Klipsch RP-160M
    Subwoofer: SVS PB12NSD (X 2)
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  • Shan87
    Shan87 Posts: 12
    edited September 2011
    I'm running my 70's crossed over at 50 and they sound good...
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  • vlad.k
    vlad.k Posts: 12
    edited September 2011
    crossover set to 150Hz
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  • vlad.k
    vlad.k Posts: 12
    edited September 2011
    Shan87 wrote: »
    I'm running my 70's crossed over at 50 and they sound good...

    did you set your 70`s to large ?
    and which mode r you usually using for music playback?

    thanks
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  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited September 2011
    vlad.k wrote: »
    crossover set to 150Hz

    Holy Crap! :eek:

    Have you set them to 80 and tried that? Generally that's considered middle ground (and THX) - so I would go from there.

    Right now you pretty much have a sub with a couple tweeter towers. You're missing the whole transitional frequency.
    65" Sony X900 (XBR-65X900E)
    Pioneer Elite SC-37
    Polk Monitor 70's (2)
    Polk Monitor 40's (4)
    Polk Monitor CS2
    Polk DSW Pro 660wi
    Oppo BDP-93
    Squeezebox Duet
    Belkin PureAV PF60
    Dish Network "The Hoppa"
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  • vlad.k
    vlad.k Posts: 12
    edited September 2011
    set them to 80?
    when i set xover to 80 it means that whatevers below 80Hz goes to sub and above to towers,is that correct ?
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  • Shan87
    Shan87 Posts: 12
    edited September 2011
    vlad.k wrote: »
    did you set your 70`s to large ?
    and which mode r you usually using for music playback?

    thanks

    That would be set to small... I'm running my 70's with a BIC F12 sub for the time being and either the sub or my room at 60hz is a huge peak that sounds awful(Just listening with a test tone cd) so I've got it cross over to where the sub picks up under that. I could be wrong in that doing but the 70's seem to put out enough bass up higher to satisfy me until I get a better sub.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited September 2011
    Start at 80hz and play around with it. You could go lower if it sounds good to you. The problem you had before has been described above. The bass was boomy because you were crossing over too high. In general the M-70s have a fairly tight and controlled bass.

    Another thing to experiment with is 'phasing'...the 0-180 button on the back of the PSW505. Flip it from 0 to 180 a few times while the M-70s are also playing a bass-laden passage and listen for what sounds 'best'--that's your setting for the sub. Also, don't 'push' the sub. Calibrate it so that it's in sync with the rest of the system and not dominating--because that will also cause it to bottom out and sound 'boomy'.

    Good Luck!

    cnh
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited September 2011
    Shan87 wrote: »
    That would be set to small... I'm running my 70's with a BIC F12 sub for the time being and either the sub or my room at 60hz is a huge peak that sounds awful(Just listening with a test tone cd) so I've got it cross over to where the sub picks up under that. I could be wrong in that doing but the 70's seem to put out enough bass up higher to satisfy me until I get a better sub.

    +1 set the mains to small.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
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