CD player

RodneyWoodford
RodneyWoodford Posts: 144
edited September 2011 in Electronics
I'm using a Blu-ray player to play my cds on with hdmi out , would it be much better if I bought a cd player for cds?:smile:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,064
    edited September 2011
    All depends, new, used, but a 50 buck cdp isn't going to be much, if any, better. Throw out a budget and I'm sure we can toss a recommendation your way.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

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    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited September 2011
    I went from playing CD's using a Panasonic Blu-ray to a Jolida JD-100 CD player and yes the Jolida is much better. The first thing I noticed was much cleaner defined/controlled bass, better separation, and improved clarity.

    Another benefit with the Jolida is the fact that you can roll Tubes and change the sound, I'm using Psvanes and couldn't be happier.
    2-Channel System
    Analog: VPI Traveler TT, Audio Technica 150MLX, Pro-Ject Tube Box DS
    CD Player: Jolida JD-100 Preamp: Cambridge 840E Amp: Odyssey Kismet Stereo
    Spkrs: Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature Systems
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited September 2011
    Happy is the one who find,s the right match for there ears...So many ways to go with this one..
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited September 2011
    yes. Went from PS3 to Rotel 1072 then to Jolida. Step up after each move.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,545
    edited September 2011
    What I have noticed when occasionally using my Bluray (or a DVDP) is that bass seems to suffer the most. Not a lack of it, but it's less articulate, more rounded-off, and muffled to a degree. Treble also seems less airy and natural. It just sounds more "electronic" I guess.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Source: Rotel CD14MkII CD Player - Speakers: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • sk1939
    sk1939 Posts: 295
    edited September 2011
    Really depends. If you have the same kind of setup these guys do with $1000 speakers, etc. then yes, you will notice a difference. If your like me and have a $150 pair of Polk TSi 100's then probably not.
    Home:
    Onkyo TX-6500MKII/Polk LSI 9's (A)Polk TSi 100(B)/Polk PSW 10/Onkyo C-S5VL/Technics SL-QD33
    Home 2 (Playback):
    Dynaudio BM5A MKII/Dynaudio SUB 250MC/Audigy 2 ZS
    College:
    JBL LSR 2325P/JBL 2310SP/MOTU UltraLite MKIII
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited September 2011
    steveinaz wrote: »
    What I have noticed when occasionally using my Bluray (or a DVDP) is that bass seems to suffer the most. Not a lack of it, but it's less articulate, more rounded-off, and muffled to a degree. Treble also seems less airy and natural. It just sounds more "electronic" I guess.
    ..you hit the nail on the head with this post about using HDMI for CD playing..
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited September 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    yes. Went from PS3 to Rotel 1072 then to Jolida. Step up after each move.
    ..I been looking at Rotel pre-amp...processors for AVR set up. and like what they have to offer a lot..I do believe i will be going with them..and add a nice five channel SunFire..and use my monoblocks for the back two in a 7.1..
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  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited September 2011
    I think my Onkyo CD player sounds just a bit better than my Panasonic and Sony DVD players. I liked my old 1985 Sony better than any of them but it's apart now for cleaning the laser.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited September 2011
    sk1939 wrote: »
    Really depends. If you have the same kind of setup these guys do with $1000 speakers, etc. then yes, you will notice a difference. If your like me and have a $150 pair of Polk TSi 100's then probably not.

    Have you compared a brp vs a decent Cdp with your speakers?

    I betbyou can tell a difference.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • eeagle
    eeagle Posts: 226
    edited September 2011
    What I am hearing (pun intended) is most are comparing analogue outs, ie letting the cd player do the conversion; lots of variables here, and room for opinion.

    If using HDMI or digital outputs of a player than you will not likely hear a difference between players using a DAC of your choice; bits are bits right?
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,064
    edited September 2011
    eeagle wrote: »
    What I am hearing (pun intended) is most are comparing analogue outs, ie letting the cd player do the conversion; lots of variables here, and room for opinion.

    If using HDMI or digital outputs of a player than you will not likely hear a difference between players using a DAC of your choice; bits are bits right?

    Yes and no.

    They were comparing sound quality from a BDP vs. CDP. I have noticed a difference between HDMI, and digital coax inputs on my gear. All digital,be it connections,cables,or source material, is not the same.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • sk1939
    sk1939 Posts: 295
    edited September 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    Have you compared a brp vs a decent Cdp with your speakers?

    I betbyou can tell a difference.

    I compated my Sony BlueRay disc vs. my Onkyo with Wolfson DACS and I have to say the CDP sounds better, but not by much. It's more "detailed" but that's about it. No DACs were used btw.
    Home:
    Onkyo TX-6500MKII/Polk LSI 9's (A)Polk TSi 100(B)/Polk PSW 10/Onkyo C-S5VL/Technics SL-QD33
    Home 2 (Playback):
    Dynaudio BM5A MKII/Dynaudio SUB 250MC/Audigy 2 ZS
    College:
    JBL LSR 2325P/JBL 2310SP/MOTU UltraLite MKIII
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited September 2011
    sk1939 wrote: »
    I compated my Sony BlueRay disc vs. my Onkyo with Wolfson DACS and I have to say the CDP sounds better, but not by much. It's more "detailed" but that's about it. No DACs were used btw.

    That's a start. Is the onkyo an avr or Cdp? Once you move your 2 channel stuff off the avr to a preamp that may be as good as it gets. Need more details like cables, Cdp and what you don't like about the sound.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited September 2011
    RodneyWoodford wrote: »
    I'm using a Blu-ray player to play my cds on with hdmi out , would it be much better if I bought a cd player for cds?:smile:

    There are some models from Oppo that are supposed to do both video and audio very well, some even play SACDs. I always prefer to use single purpose pieces, if available.:smile:
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  • sk1939
    sk1939 Posts: 295
    edited September 2011
    thsmith wrote: »
    That's a start. Is the onkyo an avr or Cdp? Once you move your 2 channel stuff off the avr to a preamp that may be as good as it gets. Need more details like cables, Cdp and what you don't like about the sound.

    I don't own an AVR. The Onkyo is both a CD player (C-S5VL) and a vintage reciever (TX-6500MKII). Cables are just some monoprice RCA cables, and I just think I don't hear as much with the BD-P.
    Home:
    Onkyo TX-6500MKII/Polk LSI 9's (A)Polk TSi 100(B)/Polk PSW 10/Onkyo C-S5VL/Technics SL-QD33
    Home 2 (Playback):
    Dynaudio BM5A MKII/Dynaudio SUB 250MC/Audigy 2 ZS
    College:
    JBL LSR 2325P/JBL 2310SP/MOTU UltraLite MKIII
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  • adcomcyclone
    adcomcyclone Posts: 49
    edited September 2011
    Never used a blu ray player for CDs, but will say that the upgrade from using a Sony DVD player as a single disc player, and a Sony 400 Disc CD player to my current Shenda player was a huge step up, before I even switched out the JJ Tesla tubes that it came with. Changing out the tubes to some vintage Sylvania and Amperex brought it to a whole new level.

    I guess your options depend on your budget, as it has already been noted that going with a single purpose $50 budget player probably won't result in any performance gains.
    2 Channel
    Polk SDA SRS, Nakamichi Pa-5 Preamp, PA-7 Amp, Shenda (Jolida) SD100S CD Player (Sylvania Gold Brand 5751 & Amperex Holland, Orange Globe 12au7 tubes).

    Home Theatre
    Onkyo SR707, Samsung Blu Ray,Sony 400 Disc DVD Changer, Sony 46" LCD (Model?)
    Speakers: Front L/R: JBL L7, Center: JBL LC1, Surround: TBD (likely JBL L1)

    Car: Clarion 9255-DRX, Adcom GFA 4702, GFA 4404, Pioneer TS-A1702c (Front and Rear), 2 Boston Acoustics 12.5LF subs
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