Monitor70 question. Where should the sound come from?

kazaam
kazaam Posts: 92
edited August 2011 in Speakers
This may seem silly, but i just bought two monitor70s and im trying to figure out where the sound SHOULD come from. i only really hear it all the way at the top, not through any other parts. is this normal?
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  • Esreuter
    Esreuter Posts: 176
    edited August 2011
    I have to say this.

    It should come from the speaker!.

    ok, done.

    Remember, your mid and high range is all on the top of that speaker.

    I think, movies and voices, mostly live in that area of high and mid. Though I would do some research on that because I am not an audio professional.

    Just what me thinks.

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  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited August 2011
    All of your drivers should be working. The lowest drivers (first two) from the bottom are the bass drivers, the next two drivers up that are 6 1/2" drivers are the mids and the silver dome covered driver is the tweeter.

    You should be able to feel or see movement on the 6 1/2" drivers and the amount of movement will of course depend on the volume and music being played. The top set of binding posts only powers the tweeter. The second set of binding posts power the mids and bass drivers. With the brass jumpers in place it should not matter which set of binding posts you attach to if you are not bi-wiring.
  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    Hm, interesting. Guess I'll have to take off the grilles then. Are the brass jumpers the things I had to remove when I inserted the banana plugs? I left the little plug things in the terminals I didn't use. Thanks again!
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,761
    edited August 2011
    There is no reason that you would have to remove the brass jumpers to use banana plugs. You're doing somehting wrong.
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  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited August 2011
    The brass jumpers are flat pieces of brass (metal) that tie the top row of binding posts into the bottom row of binding posts. The plastic inserts have no effect unless you are plugging into that pair of binding posts. You can leave them in the top if you are using the bottom ones.

    The grills come off easily, just pry with your fingers the left and right side at the same time. Start at the top and work your way down without pulling the freed up portion too far out so you avoid stressing the plastic retainers.
  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    Okay I'll go check those jumpers out, I didn't even notice them. They're definitely there if they were included because I never removed anything like that.
  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    Jumpers are definitely there.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,014
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    Jumpers are definitely there.

    Are they connected to both sets of binding posts ?
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  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Are they connected to both sets of binding posts ?

    Yes sir. Two copper connectors on each speaker.
  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    Jumpers are definitely there.

    So is the music there also? That is the important part. Are you getting the sound out that you want now.

    Mine took a couple weeks of continuous play to really break in. Have some patience and the sound will improve.:smile:
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited August 2011
    Make sure all four binding posts on both ends of the jumpers on each speaker are screwed down as tight as possible. When I first got mine the jumpers were in place but 'not' making contact with all terminals. That's not an uncommon problem.

    Then put on some bass friendly material and 'feel' all your woofers. They should all be vibrating about the same, especially the bottom 2 or 3.

    If you're not sure if your jumpers are making contact. Cut some small pieces of speaker wire about the same length, strip the ends and use those as the 'jumpers' screw them down--now you can 'see' that they are actually making contact.

    If all of that fails. I suggest pulling the speakers to make sure they're connected to the appropriate wires. There may be a lose contact or two?

    Hope this helps some.

    Good luck. If all else fails, give Polk Customer Service a call--best in the business!

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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    This may seem silly, but i just bought two monitor70s and im trying to figure out where the sound SHOULD come from. i only really hear it all the way at the top, not through any other parts. is this normal?

    I've been thinking about your question and wondering what you're really asking. Everybody seems to think that you're not hearing any bass, yet you haven't said that.

    Are you really just wondering where all the sounds come from? Higher frequencies are easier for our ears to localize, therefore you can easily identify and hear sounds coming from your tweeter and mid-range drivers. However, you may not be able to determine where the bass comes from, even though you know it's generated by your woofers. I know if I put my ears up to mine, I really don't hear anything specific, but if I move away from the speaker, the bass is just "there". Also, the port has a lot to do with generating lower frequencies, and you'll never be able to ascertain quite where that sound comes from.

    Or, maybe I'm all wrong. :smile:
  • kazaam
    kazaam Posts: 92
    edited August 2011
    So i took off the grilles the other day, turned up the volume to -40db (or 60 db on my AVR), put on a bass heavy song, and i watched to see vibrations on the woofers. I couldnt see any at all. I kind of felt air from the port though, which means bass WAS being produces i assume (not a lot of air though).
  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    So i took off the grilles the other day, turned up the volume to -40db (or 60 db on my AVR), put on a bass heavy song, and i watched to see vibrations on the woofers. I couldnt see any at all. I kind of felt air from the port though, which means bass WAS being produces i assume (not a lot of air though).

    You might need to push them a little more. I can tell you that when they are pushed in a bass heavy song, the drivers DEFINITELY move. If you want to REALLY see them move, hook up your computer and play "Bass I Love You" on youtube. That will get them moving!

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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2011
    kazaam wrote: »
    So i took off the grilles the other day, turned up the volume to -40db (or 60 db on my AVR), put on a bass heavy song, and i watched to see vibrations on the woofers. I couldnt see any at all. I kind of felt air from the port though, which means bass WAS being produces i assume (not a lot of air though).

    I'm not sure that the Monitor 70's port is only affected by the woofers. You may be feeling air pushed by the mids.

    The question is, are you hearing bass? What do your ears tell you?
  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2011
    dcmartinpc wrote: »
    You might need to push them a little more.

    Agreed. -40db isn't very loud on most AVRs.