Any interest in a Claritycap group buy?

quadzilla

Most of the values needed for Polks are "custom" according to Claritycap. So, while the ESA line is only slightly above the price of Sonicaps, buying 10 at a shot for each value doesn't work for me, and 10 is the minimum on a special order. Buying 10 at a shot in the MR series is right out. I might be able to consider it if I'd just gotten a large bonus or won the lottery, but otherwise, not so much (though actually I did think about it for a minute before I came to my senses). What I'd really like to get together is a group buy on the following values:

MR Series:
5.8 mf
4.4 mf
12 mf

ESA: 20 mf.

Parts Connexion said they do it, and will sell in any quantity, but only if they think they can move them fairly quickly. They won't sit on the extras in those values though. Apparently, almost no one else uses them, so the guy doesn't think he could sell them even inside a year.

Any way, if you have any interest and are willing to make a commitment, post in this thread. Otherwise, I'll just stick with Sonicaps. I mean, it's not like they aren't great. Just trying to move up the line on caps, like everything else.

fbm211

Are you buying those direct from Claritycap.?Good way to avoid a markup.

Face

If CC won't do it direct, I'd give Madisound a try too.

quadzilla

Madisound said "eff off". That's who I tried first.

The buy would be through parts connexion. I'm not a dealer. I can't even get Claritycap to answer my emails.

george daniel

The 4.4 and the 12 are for the tweeters IIRC?

quadzilla

The MR series is all for the tweeters. I included the 5.8 for TL and TL conversions. They ain't cheap either. Pricing is up there with Mundorf S/O, but Mundorf S/Os aren't even available in close to those values.

The already have a 39 mf available in the ESA series, so getting them to go through and find some 39s that test real close to 40 should be ok, or just get 3 20s for each speaker for those interested. The ESA series are priced just above the Sonicap Gen Is.

But if there's no interest in the MR series, then if we had enough interest in all ESAs, I'd be ok with that too.

skrol

If a group buy isn't going to work for Clarity Caps, what about Sonicap?

quadzilla

Call up sonic craft and just order them. The 20% off sale is still running.

VR3

I dont think there is a cap Sonicap makes that can compare to the MR. There are few caps that do.

You guys are going HARDCORE with the caps, love it! Good luck!

VR3

To be quite honest, I dont think you guys will hear much difference with the grade of tweeter the SDA series uses over the MR and ESA. Just an opinion - not knocking the tweeter by any stretch but the RDO is no Seas Excel by any stretch either.

Just being realistic, the ESA is 85% of the MR and a little under half the price... could save you alot of dough and still bring huge results!

quadzilla

ESA is more like a quarter of the price of the MR series. That's why I said I'd be happy if people were only willing to go up to the ESA series. They're about double the price of sonicaps, but I'd really like to see just how good that is.

And if there is interest, only the 4.4, 5.8, and 40 (630V rating) would need to be done as a group buy. The 12 mf and 20 mf are listed as being stocked values.

Joe08867

ESA's are quite good. I have not tried MR for reasons of price. I can't justify it to myself.

I would place the ESA's about 10-20% better sounding than Sonicaps in the highs. But that is only in super critical listening mode. Lights out favorite album glass of favorite beverage in hand. In my experience they have better bloom, have much cleaner high detail and just an overall smoother sound. I could only imagine the MR's being better but as in any mechanical hobby, the last few steps take the most money.

In normal listening I doubt most would hear a difference especially if the gear driving them isn't up to the task. All the crossover work in the world will not help weak components in the loop.

george daniel

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »

To be quite honest, I dont think you guys will hear much difference with the grade of tweeter the SDA series uses over the MR and ESA. Just an opinion - not knocking the tweeter by any stretch but the RDO is no Seas Excel by any stretch either.

Just being realistic, the ESA is 85% of the MR and a little under half the price... could save you alot of dough and still bring huge results!

Difference between Sonicap and the ESA in the tweeter circuit?

VR3

I honestly view Sonicap on par with the SA series and the SA series has nothing on the ESA, IMO.

The MR is stupid good but I think you need the gear to experience it!

Joe08867

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »

I honestly view Sonicap on par with the SA series and the SA series has nothing on the ESA, IMO.

The MR is stupid good but I think you need the gear to experience it!

I agree 100%.

Michael8it

I am rebuilding my cross overs in my RTA12's but I am on a budget. I heard good things about Erse caps and am going to give them a try. Anyone have experience with these?

VR3

I used Erse in a 12c rebuild I did for a gentleman and he really liked them! FWIW

Michael8it

Thanks! I am looking at $40 per crossover including Mills resistors. $80 total, and I picked these RTA12's up for $200 so I am still in good shape (I hope). Although I don't intend to sell them anytime soon.

quadzilla

Well, since there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in a group buy, I'm funding all this myself. The final order will be 10 ea of ESA 630V series 5.8mf , 8mf, 16mf, 18mf, 27mf.

This is what it takes to rebuild my 2.3 TLs. If anyone is interested in getting in on this, pm me and let me know. I'll likely have to spread the order out over 3-4 months due to cost (about 1400 total) unless someone is willing to chip in on some of it. I'll sell the extras to anyone interested at my cost + shipping.

Prices are:

5.8mf 16 ea.
8 mf 19 ea.
16 mf 32 ea.
18 mf 35 ea.
27 mf 52 ea.

Since I'm buying @ 10 each, he's giving me a discount, and I'm passing it along. I thought for a bit about doing the tweeter network in MR series, but that'd take a 4 grand order. Not happening unless I get a helluva raise or win the lottery or something.

quadzilla

It looks like both the original and first rev use 2 12s. I think those are available as a stocked value from http://www.partsconnexion.com/

drumminman

quadzilla wrote: »

Well, since there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest in a group buy, I'm funding all this myself. The final order will be 10 ea of ESA 630V series 5.8mf , 8mf, 16mf, 18mf, 27mf.

This is what it takes to rebuild my 2.3 TLs. If anyone is interested in getting in on this, pm me and let me know. I'll likely have to spread the order out over 3-4 months due to cost (about 1400 total) unless someone is willing to chip in on some of it. I'll sell the extras to anyone interested at my cost + shipping.

Prices are:

5.8mf 16 ea.
8 mf 19 ea.
16 mf 32 ea.
18 mf 35 ea.
27 mf 52 ea.

Since I'm buying @ 10 each, he's giving me a discount, and I'm passing it along. I thought for a bit about doing the tweeter network in MR series, but that'd take a 4 grand order. Not happening unless I get a helluva raise or win the lottery or something.

Good luck with all this QZ. I'd be interested except I just did mine with Sonicaps and mills.

Look forward to your review once you get it done.

Toolfan66

I will take 6 MR 12uf's

quadzilla

TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »

I will take 6 MR 12uf's

I'm not ordering any MR series, or any 12mf. They're listed as non-stocked on the partsconnexion site, but it'd take an order of 10. That'll run you about 1500. And that's why I'm not ordering any MRs series. Although, if you're still interested in a few months, I might go in with you. I could use those in my TL modded CRS+s.

Toolfan66

Yeah I know I was just posting my wish list.. LOL!!

JimAckley

Is this still going at all?