All this talk of vintage Pioneer receivers, I had to

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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited August 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Perhaps that's where my disconnect is, I haven't owned an AVR for quite sometime. I have no use for one really.

    H9
    Well, I said AVR, because the average person has to look pretty hard to find a receiver that's not an AVR. My guess is you'd have little interest in a new stereo integrated receiver, let alone an old one.
    Once I find what I'm looking for, all I'm gonna do is run Squeezebox through it most of the time, but I also want to be able to flip to AM once in a while for an occasional Orioles game. Otherwise, I'd just use one of the integrated amps I already have.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2011
    I got some mean stuff for the Fest..afterall, no more space shuttle launches in Florida...so we might find out how far a Pioneer el-vintage case can travel upward when its insides explode outward, kinda like the Tour da Fransay..Southern Style.

    Which reminds me.....you know the last thing a southern driver says before the accident....



    hey bud, hold my beer......

    I am sure that will offend someone. So I reported myself...

    RT1
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,804
    edited August 2011
    reeltrouble1 wrote: »
    I got some mean stuff for the Fest..afterall, no more space shuttle launches in Florida...so we might find out how far a Pioneer el-vintage case can travel upward when its insides explode outward, kinda like the Tour da Fransay..Southern Style.

    Which reminds me.....you know the last thing a southern driver says before the accident....



    hey bud, hold my beer......

    I am sure that will offend someone. So I reported myself...

    RT1
    Uhhh... I don't know if you did or not; I didn't understand a word of it except "hold my beer" :-)

    Say... this may be of interest vis-a-vis this thread:
    http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=387387

    Pioneer's not my favorite 1970s Japanese massmarket stuff - but their better offerings of the time were... umm... not insubstantial.
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2011
    I personally recall my Kenwood seperates...tall cotton and sun made sweet tea...of course no tubes but at the time that rig was my bomb and we rocked it.

    RT1
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  • sucks2beme
    sucks2beme Posts: 5,601
    edited August 2011
    I understand the appeal of older stuff, just not the PRICE.
    But I did get a pair of JBL L100's, so I guess I've been caught up
    in the wave. Here in the Dallas area, there a lot's of places to get vintage gear.
    Unlike other areas of the country, thrift shops are the last place to look.
    There are so many people looking for resale (EBAY) stuff that I don't
    know if I ever have seen anything other than crap in those places.
    The best bet as always is garage sales. CL always has a couple of items
    up. Anything priced in reason goes in an hour.
    "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." --Thomas Jefferson
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2011
    Hell, I understand the nostalgia of these rigs. I had some great pieces over the years and I'd love to revisit them to take that trip down memory lane, but I know I'd be somewhat disappointed. Because in reality I've moved on and those nostalgic pieces don't offer the performance I am accustomed to today now that I have had time to explore this hobby in the past 20+ years.

    It's sort of like working your way up to owning a Ferrari today and then going back and buying that 1970's MGB you started out with years ago and trying to act like your having fun driving it the same way as you drive the current Ferrari.

    Again, not knocking anyone who has love for the vintage receivers and whatnot, I personally don't see the value beyond nostalgia for me. And that's just my opinion on the matter.

    I say if it floats your boat and you get enjoyment out of it, got for it and have fun.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited August 2011
    Thanks for your "permission", now I can really enjoy my nostalgia gear!!:rolleyes:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2011
    Hey, you don't need my permission anymore than I need your permission to discuss my point of view. You don't like it, tough, use the ignore feature.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited August 2011
    "I say if it floats your boat and you get enjoyment out of it, got for it and have fun."

    Seems like the granting of permission to me. You're much too entertaining on your pulpit to ever put on ignore, Geo.Grandville,Bozo Land etc. status!!:biggrin:
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited August 2011
    H9 I do have a question for you. What would you look for to power a pair of rta12s for a work out room? Let's set the price at max$300? Has to be in great shape and need no repairs?
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2011
    Based on experience I'd probably opt for a nice old integrated like the Yamaha AX-700U or even better an Adcom GFA 545 and an associated pre-amp. Be perfect for a work out room and plenty of current to run the RTA12's unless you are in a gym sized room then $300 won't get it done.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited August 2011
    When and if the time comes for me to part with them, I have an immaculate NAD 2200 power amp, and an equally immaculate NAD preamp, that I don't think I could morally price much above $300 for both.

    I'm not H9 though.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited August 2011
    George Grand wrote: »
    When and if the time comes for me to part with them, I have an immaculate NAD 2200 power amp, and an equally immaculate NAD preamp, that I don't think I could morally price much above $300 for both.

    I'm not H9 though.

    Tracy that would be highly recommended as well and even trumphs my suggestions. Good call George and if you can part with them I'm sure Tracy would be tickled pink.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited August 2011
    seems I recall your being part of the Jersey Grand's.

    I still have the Club's 1130 NAD preamp, sold the 2600 amp to Dangerboy a ways back, got it from Doro years ago after he swiped it from Russ after the 1st Texas Polkfest. A 100 buck piece that sounds like thousand...excellent TT section, tone defeat and of course the green button.

    oh, I am RT1.
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited August 2011
    I have a smaller wpc NAD that I like and had it had a bit more power I would be using it instead.

    So much audio gear so little time.

    I do like how this thread is going. Some good input and diverse opinions.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,420
    edited August 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    The old Sansui stuff gives me a bone. My first real rig was a Sansui integrated and tuner. Recently scooped up a Yamaha CR-840 for the bedroom and paired it with the TL2 Blackstones. Doesn't rattle any walls, but it does help put me to sleep.

    Nice catch, Tracy. Enjoy!

    I miss that AU20000 and the TU-9900 I had. If I was in a better place then, I would still have them.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

    “When once a Republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil.”— Thomas Jefferson
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