Good story on the Bin Laden mission

BlueFox
BlueFox Posts: 15,251
edited August 2011 in The Clubhouse
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/08/08/110808fa_fact_schmidle?currentPage=all
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited August 2011
    I wish I didn't have ADD so I could read the whole story. This is going to take me a week.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited August 2011
    Great read,but unfortunately http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/afghanistan-helicopter-crash-sources-navy-seals-killed_n_920147.html
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  • agfrost
    agfrost Posts: 2,427
    edited August 2011
    Very unfortunate indeed.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited August 2011
    All the more reason to get the heck out. Still don't know what we hope to accomplish there anyway.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited August 2011
    Wow, 4 whole posts before someone posts something that's likely going to turn this thread into an argument, impressive...
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,047
    edited August 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    All the more reason to get the heck out. Still don't know what we hope to accomplish there anyway.
    Dude, you and I have more in common than I would have thought. Maybe this post is a good thing...
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited August 2011
    When you start a post with the words "Bin Laden" in it, what do you expect to follow ? Seriously, how could you talk about him, the mission, soldiers, the wars, and expect cotton candy responses ?
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited August 2011
    everyone else has managed to.
    -Cody
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    I wish I didn't have ADD so I could read the whole story. This is going to take me a week.

    LOL. I read about half last night, and finished it today.
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  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,146
    edited August 2011
    Time to get out isn't it?!

    I said the same to my wife when we heard that bad news too.:frown:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited August 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    everyone else has managed to.
    -Cody

    Guess I'm not a cotton candy zombie then.:tongue::smile:
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  • brettw22
    brettw22 Posts: 7,624
    edited August 2011
    Good read.......I had thought there was video being taken from the various news sources. Would have made sense with the look on the faces of those in that room when that picture was taken of everyone watching what was going on.......
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited August 2011
    Quoted from the article:
    If all went according to plan, the SEALs would drop from the helicopters into the compound, overpower bin Laden's guards, shoot and kill him at close range, and then take the corpse back to Afghanistan.

    Quite powerful statement: the plan was to kill him, not to capture :wink:
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    Quoted from the article:


    Quite powerful statement: the plan was to kill him, not to capture :wink:

    Indeed. I'm glad this is getting out to the public. After the mission I posted in one of the threads here that it appeared the objective was to kill Bin Ladin, and any adult males with him.
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited August 2011
    Excellent read. Thanks for sharing.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited August 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    Indeed. I'm glad this is getting out to the public. After the mission I posted in one of the threads here that it appeared the objective was to kill Bin Ladin, and any adult males with him.

    Did anyone think the mission was to not kill the guy ? I mean we didn't spend trillions, sacrifice lives, spend 10 years there to find him and play a thousand questions.

    Sorry for the sarcasm, just don't see the big deal over if the mission was to kill or not to kill him. Or maybe I'm missing something....could be, I'm pretty much dead before my 2nd pot of coffee.:smile:
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited August 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Did anyone think the mission was to not kill the guy ?

    I would have rather it been with something other than a bullet.

    Like...oh, I dunno...a pole, some wire, and a big **** fire.
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,413
    edited August 2011
    FTGV wrote: »
    Great read,but unfortunately http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/06/afghanistan-helicopter-crash-sources-navy-seals-killed_n_920147.html


    very unfortunate indeed BUT none of those killed were on the Bin Laden mission.
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited August 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Did anyone think the mission was to not kill the guy ? I mean we didn't spend trillions, sacrifice lives, spend 10 years there to find him and play a thousand questions.

    Sorry for the sarcasm, just don't see the big deal over if the mission was to kill or not to kill him. Or maybe I'm missing something....could be, I'm pretty much dead before my 2nd pot of coffee.:smile:

    At the time there was a lot of wishing he had surrendered and been captured, and wondering why he wasn't captured.

    The big deal is that the order from above was an unambiguous order to kill Bin Ladin, any adult male with him, and anybody else who interferes. Do not waste any time trying to capture him. Just kill him. I think that sends a bit of a statement. More than Gitmo, or any other symbolic threats. But for a statement to have any effect, people, both domestic and foreign, need to be aware of it.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited August 2011
    Yeah, I know what your saying,but to address that scenario, we have to travel down that political road which is frowned upon.

    If you'd like we can take it over to the Polk Army board to discus further. Not a member ?? Join up my man, we can throw darts all day over there.
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