A Huge Sub Work Out Part Duex!!
Dr. Spec
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This subwoofer demo music is SO good, it deserves a new thread!
I don't know much about organ music per se, but the organist is certainly talented. The Church Organ disc (currently playing on my system) is aptly named; I feel like I'm in church and I recognize many of the movements. I have not yet played the Theater Organ disc.
I plugged a port since this is certainly one of those rare instances where the native tune of the PB2+ is not adequate as many of these long pipe notes are in the infrasonic range. I left the SS filter set to 16 hz. The PB2+ in the 2/16 tune provides strong response to about 13 Hz in-room.
The overall recording level is fairly sedate, which encourages the enthusiast to crank up the volume. I was really not afraid to damage the sub, so I wicked it up pretty loud.
This is a full bore organ (rare in all but the largest and oldest and richest of churches) and the organist really, REALLY leans on the big pipes! WOW!!
Unless you have heard a full size organ live, there really is no way to adequately describe how the infrasonic notes feel. Whever a long pipe is hit, there is suddenly an incredibly thick and heavy sensation in the air, and your skin kind of tingles (and my bathrobe moves) and you feel slightly nauseous from the pressure on your ears. Something rattles slowly in the back corner of the room, and the better half screams that the floor, windows and walls upstairs are flexing!
Holding my hand at the open ports is fun since you can actually feel exactly when the resonator takes over since cone excursion drops considerably and a steady stream of air wooshes out from the ports like a fan as the organist holds the note - big fun.
This is really an incredible experience - involuntary "oh my God" responses became almost routine with almost each song. Very VERY impressive!
I am happy to report the SVS PB2+ looked death squarely in the eye and didn't flinch. No bottoming, no farting - just clean, rafter lifting, window flexing, skin crawling, bathrobe moving, ear pressurizing, FULL BORE PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS classic organ bass. Goddamn!
Doc
I don't know much about organ music per se, but the organist is certainly talented. The Church Organ disc (currently playing on my system) is aptly named; I feel like I'm in church and I recognize many of the movements. I have not yet played the Theater Organ disc.
I plugged a port since this is certainly one of those rare instances where the native tune of the PB2+ is not adequate as many of these long pipe notes are in the infrasonic range. I left the SS filter set to 16 hz. The PB2+ in the 2/16 tune provides strong response to about 13 Hz in-room.
The overall recording level is fairly sedate, which encourages the enthusiast to crank up the volume. I was really not afraid to damage the sub, so I wicked it up pretty loud.
This is a full bore organ (rare in all but the largest and oldest and richest of churches) and the organist really, REALLY leans on the big pipes! WOW!!
Unless you have heard a full size organ live, there really is no way to adequately describe how the infrasonic notes feel. Whever a long pipe is hit, there is suddenly an incredibly thick and heavy sensation in the air, and your skin kind of tingles (and my bathrobe moves) and you feel slightly nauseous from the pressure on your ears. Something rattles slowly in the back corner of the room, and the better half screams that the floor, windows and walls upstairs are flexing!
Holding my hand at the open ports is fun since you can actually feel exactly when the resonator takes over since cone excursion drops considerably and a steady stream of air wooshes out from the ports like a fan as the organist holds the note - big fun.
This is really an incredible experience - involuntary "oh my God" responses became almost routine with almost each song. Very VERY impressive!
I am happy to report the SVS PB2+ looked death squarely in the eye and didn't flinch. No bottoming, no farting - just clean, rafter lifting, window flexing, skin crawling, bathrobe moving, ear pressurizing, FULL BORE PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS classic organ bass. Goddamn!
Doc
"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
SVS
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
SVS
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Well I don't have the SVS, but I do have my Velo in a small room with alot of room gain. And I have a few organ discs of my own. And I can relate to what your saying- when the organist steps on the pedal, it's not a note that you hear, but oh man, you feel it! Like you said, the air gets thick, you can feel it moving, and it's like there's some Dominating Force that just entered your room and isn't to be triffled with!
With that, I took a trip to Italy a few years ago, and one of the treats was going to alot of big name cathedrals and churches and listening to the live organ music. It's impressive! It's an impressive instrument! I play a little piano, and I've been at the helm of an organ before, and It's like whoah - There's this Powerful, Meanicing, Crushing, but Beautiful instrument at my hands. It gives me huge respect for people that are good at it, and espacially the masters of it- Bach in particular. One of the few instruments that bests it in dynamic range and power is the Carralon (sp?). Often reffered to as Belltowers, the nice ones can barely be heard on the ground when hit softly, and can ring for up to 4 miles when pounded! Now THAT's Dynamic Range! Our UC campus here has a nice one, and I've heard my mom play it before. Fun stuff! -
Great read Doc. So how does the organ pipes hit or compare differently from the "ring drop" or the U571 underwater blasts?
Are you more impressed with the pipe organ music?
Paul -
They really are hard to compare.
Although U-571 has its share of subsonic content, most of the depth charges are centered in the 25-30 Hz region, like the ring drop. These scenes are impressive for the sheer concussive quality they bring to the table. They shake the room and batter you in the chest.
The organ notes are much more pure and singular in nature. They are not the least bit concussive, and are of course MUCH deeper - probably around 16 Hz for the longest pipes. The sheer amount of steady air flow when the organist leans on the long pipes is staggering.
It not only pressurizes the room, it pressurizes the room for several seconds at a time, which is REALLY awe inspiring."What we do in life echoes in eternity"
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
SVS -
A special thanks to TonyPTX for a superb packaging job and a very nice insert with song number and length. Thanks Tony, I owe you one!"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
SVS -
Hey Doc,
Thanks for the review and the comparison. I know I'm missing out on a lot with my PSW 350. A new sub is high on my priority list but it is over the horizon right now.
FYI. You might be interested in this thread over at AVS Forum. Your name and review is mentioned (but its a good thing of course).
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?threadid=300719 -
Thanks for the link! I have helped Joel offline; he's got a really nice rig with the dual PB2+.
When the time comes to retire the 350, we'll talk about what sub will best suit your needs.
Doc"What we do in life echoes in eternity"
Ed Mullen (emullen@svsound.com)
Director - Technology and Customer Service
SVS -
Doc,
Glad I was able to bring the S&V thread to your attention. I had a feeling you woould like it. Thanks for the great review, and I copy and pasted it for you on the S&V forum. Hope that os okay.
Sean (Avefan)
http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=24333&sessionID={3056F61C-F589-4C34-88B8-DB1325C74FA5}
