Goodwill Find

kevhed72
kevhed72 Posts: 5,055
edited August 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
This was bought for my garage set-up when my other Yamaha finally died.
A Yamaha A-960 amp and T-1000 tuner for 15.00 total. The amp has a built-in TT pre and a bunch of superfluous tone controls (bass/treble/etc).

Good find for my garage, but are these something more that should be used in-doors, in terms of value?
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  • wayne3burk
    wayne3burk Posts: 939
    edited July 2011
    the A-960 is a pretty rare find - appearently the X-power feature was an infringement on a patent held by bob carver....

    http://gigapod.free.fr/Yamaha_A760.html
    Yamaha advertised the A-760 and A-960 as featuring a new "X" power supply, which would adjust the power supply's line voltage to the level required by the output stage; Yamaha used the same technology in their R-1000 and R-2000 receivers, and in the TOTL M-60 and B-6 ("pyramid" design) power amplifiers. Apparently Bob Carver held a patent for exactly this sort of technology and threatened Yamaha with a patent infringement lawsuit. In 1982 Yamaha came out with revised A-760II and A-960II models that I assume did not feature an "X" power supply anymore.

    I think you have about $150 - $200 worth of ebay hardware there.

    I'd definitely clean it up and use it for my home office 2 channel system
    Yamaha RX-V2700, EMI 711As (front), RCA K-16 (rear), Magnavox Console (Center & TV Stand), Sony SMP-N200 media streamer, Dual 1249 TT =--- Sharp Aquas 60" LCD tellie
  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited July 2011
    The 960 was the first amp I owned. I bought it when I was in high school (approx '84) and thought it was great. Can't remember enough on sound quality, but somewhere in the mid 90s had issues w/the slide balance control and a bulb or two that went out. Eventually, there was too much static and low output from one channel, so ended up getting rid of it.

    If I'd had internet resources and the repair knowledge I have now, I'd probably still have it (couldn't afford to pay for repairs back then). You'll probably want to use Deoxit on all the controls after so many years. Also, there's a tone bypass button that will eliminate most of the slides from your signal path.

    About 2 yrs ago I started down the Polk vintage road and picked up a Yamaha M-80 because of the nostalgia factor for my 960. I still have the M-80 but have moved on to better amps. In my opinion, the older Yamahas are solid and the price you paid for both items is well worth it...it'll definitely work as a garage rig w/105 wpc if my memory is correct.

    Also, I believe there was a power supply safety recall on versions of the amp sold in England and/or Europe (try a Google search). I was in Germany when I purchased mine, so you may have one of the military market versions if it's 110/220 switchable on the back. You should be able to find the owners manual here:
    http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/

    Let me know what you think after you've listened to it.

    John
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: PS Audio P15 Power Plant Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends Streaming: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC, TP-Link WAP, & Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark, Emperor Double Crown Clock, Black Modernize LPS, PS Audio AirLens⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited July 2011
    My memory is going...guess it was around '82 when I picked up mine. I had the MKII version. Interesting info on the patent problem.
    Speakers: Polk1.2tl's (Uber Mods) Pre/Amp/DAC: PS Audio BHK Signature & 250, DirectStream Cables/IC's: MIT S1Bi-Wire/S1 Balanced +Avel Lindberg 1000VA "Dreadnought" Power Conditioner: PS Audio P15 Power Plant Power Cords: Core Power Technologies Gold, DH Labs Power Plus DIY w/Neotech NC-P301 & P311ends Streaming: Roon ROCK on wifi'd NUC, TP-Link WAP, & Uptone EtherREGEN, AfterDark, Emperor Double Crown Clock, Black Modernize LPS, PS Audio AirLens⟿Ω☯☥☮⟿🔊♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬♩♪♫♬
  • gidrah
    gidrah Posts: 3,049
    edited July 2011
    At that price it's good enough for great sounding stuff. Some might need to go to a quality tech in order to make it better than most stuff produced today but I'll leave that up to you.
    Make it Funky! :)
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,055
    edited July 2011
    JayCee wrote: »
    The 960 was the first amp I owned. I bought it when I was in high school (approx '84) and thought it was great. Can't remember enough on sound quality, but somewhere in the mid 90s had issues w/the slide balance control and a bulb or two that went out. Eventually, there was too much static and low output from one channel, so ended up getting rid of it.

    If I'd had internet resources and the repair knowledge I have now, I'd probably still have it (couldn't afford to pay for repairs back then). You'll probably want to use Deoxit on all the controls after so many years. Also, there's a tone bypass button that will eliminate most of the slides from your signal path.

    About 2 yrs ago I started down the Polk vintage road and picked up a Yamaha M-80 because of the nostalgia factor for my 960. I still have the M-80 but have moved on to better amps. In my opinion, the older Yamahas are solid and the price you paid for both items is well worth it...it'll definitely work as a garage rig w/105 wpc if my memory is correct.

    Also, I believe there was a power supply safety recall on versions of the amp sold in England and/or Europe (try a Google search). I was in Germany when I purchased mine, so you may have one of the military market versions if it's 110/220 switchable on the back. You should be able to find the owners manual here:
    http://www.yamaha.co.jp/manual/english/

    Let me know what you think after you've listened to it.

    John

    Right now its in the garage hooked up to a pair of Polk S-4's, so I think its worth bringing in and hooking up to my A9s and hear the difference vs. my Parasound 2203 for kicks...
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited July 2011
    That's fun for $7.50
  • camp21178
    camp21178 Posts: 273
    edited July 2011
    I love these stories about garage sale or thrift store finds. I also love any old silver amplifier.
  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited July 2011
    Great grab! You'll certainly have one of the better looking and sounding garage systems with those.
    Thorens TD125MKII, SME3009,Shure V15/ Teac V-8000S, Denon DN-790R cass, Teac 3340 RtR decks, Onix CD2...Sumo Electra Plus pre>SAE A1001 amp>Martin Logan Summit's
  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,055
    edited August 2011
    I have put in a solid 10 hrs. of listening on this integrated amp, and came up with the following observations. Keep in mind I had to use 14AWG Monster speaker wire on this unit due no binding posts. First off, the amp sounded pretty smooth in the highs and mids when presented with pretty basis music compositions. Overall, though, the amp lacked much of the dynamic punch of my Parasound and lacked in the bass dept. Overall...a flatter sound. Also, the amp did struggle with complex music such as Zappa or "sound bands", and the clarity of the multiple instruments / layers playing at the same time was lacking. Lets end with a pro - the vocal clarity was very good.
    Overall, it was very enjoyable listening to a different piece of gear. I am not sure if I will keep it or sell to fund something else. Below are some pics for your viewing pleasure: :smile:
  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited August 2011
    Just give some more time to grow on ya. It should, nice choice of tunes you have layed out!
    Thorens TD125MKII, SME3009,Shure V15/ Teac V-8000S, Denon DN-790R cass, Teac 3340 RtR decks, Onix CD2...Sumo Electra Plus pre>SAE A1001 amp>Martin Logan Summit's
  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited August 2011
    That's fun for $7.50

    Yep, close the thread, question answered.

    Next!
    Check your lips at the door woman. Shake your hips like battleships. Yeah, all the white girls trip when I sing at Sunday service.
  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited August 2011
    Got any Zappa? Put some Zappa on.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
  • ryan4blu
    ryan4blu Posts: 4
    edited August 2011
    nice score!!
    Samsung 58" Plasma - Def Tech BP-8040 towers, SC-8040 center & SR-8040 surrounds - Pioneer Elite VSX23 AVR - Emotiva XPA-3 - Pio Elite BD23 player - apc power managment - harmony one remote