Velodyne SMS-1

PSOVLSK
PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
edited August 2011 in For Sale (FS) Classifieds
I may regret selling this, but I just haven't gotten around to hooking it up in the new house.

It's about 4 years old, but I'll try to verify exactly when I bought it. Everything is in great shape and it will be double boxed in the original shipping containers.

$325 to you door CONUS
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited July 2011
    I've got receipts for everything from Mortite to my PJ, but I can't find my receipt for this. I just checked some old threads and saw that I bought my XPA-5 in Jan. '09. I know I got the SMS-1 several months after that purchase, so I've had it more like 2 years:redface:
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited July 2011
    Bump
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited July 2011
    No one???
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  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited July 2011
    Great unit here folks, at a nice price too!
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  • Steelo
    Steelo Posts: 69
    edited August 2011
    edoggrc51 wrote: »
    Great unit here folks, at a nice price too!

    I'll second that......edoggrc51 :wink:
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  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited August 2011
    Steelo wrote: »
    I'll second that......edoggrc51 :wink:

    :wink: :biggrin:
    Denon 4311ci
    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
    XPR-5
    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited August 2011
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  • MADGSF
    MADGSF Posts: 603
    edited August 2011
    Great unit for a great price, I love what mine did for my system. The sub volume control alone was worth it to me.
    AVR: Elite VSX-21TXH
    Amplifier: B&K 7250 Series ii
    Misc: Velodyne SMS-1
    Mains: RTi-10
    Center: CSi-5
    Rear: Boston DSi460
    Sub: SVS PC-Ultra
    TV: Panasonic TC-P58V10
    DVD: Panasonic DMP-BD60K
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2011
    If I had the cash this would be marked "Sold".

    Sub EQ is on the list of things my Integra doesnt do :frown:

    But I have no cash or stuff to sell to get cash currently :frown:
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited August 2011
    Anyone local interested? If so, shoot me a pm for a slightly lower price.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2011
    Ok stupid question, but for multiple subs does this EQ each sub independent of each other or all subs together?
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited August 2011
    I've never run two subs, so I don't know from experience. I have a meeting in about 30 minutes, but I'll get the owners manual later and see if I can find the answer for you. Anyone who knows the answer please chime in.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2011
    PSOVLSK wrote: »
    I've never run two subs, so I don't know from experience. I have a meeting in about 30 minutes, but I'll get the owners manual later and see if I can find the answer for you. Anyone who knows the answer please chime in.

    Think I found my answer but check me on it anyway:
    There are three unbalanced ?LFE? outputs (for attaching up to 3 subwoofers in parallel).

    Though we would have liked to have seen the ability to independently EQ two subwoofers in the SMS-1, we recognize it would complicate setup for most end users of single subwoofer systems.........the SMS-1 has the ability to be daisy changed to additional units to make it a reality. A ?Thru? connection (stereo) routes pure, un-EQ?d signal out of the SMS-1, allowing for daisy-chaining of multiple units.

    http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acoustics/velodyne-sms-1-subwoofer-parametric-eq-system/velodyne-sms-1-features-and-using-the-system

    Another decent review is here:

    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_4/velodyne-sms1-digital-drive-sub-manager-12-2005-part-1.html
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  • dcmartinpc
    dcmartinpc Posts: 844
    edited August 2011
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Think I found my answer but check me on it anyway:



    http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/acoustics/velodyne-sms-1-subwoofer-parametric-eq-system/velodyne-sms-1-features-and-using-the-system

    Another decent review is here:

    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_12_4/velodyne-sms1-digital-drive-sub-manager-12-2005-part-1.html

    You are correct. It can control multiple subs, but all 3 subs get the same processed signal. I would really like to EQ my subs, but I will have to run 2 of them as I run stereo subs. Someday....

    GLWTS on a great unit.

    Don
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  • rtart
    rtart Posts: 833
    edited August 2011
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Ok stupid question, but for multiple subs does this EQ each sub independent of each other or all subs together?

    All subs together. I have an SMS-1 and have run up to four subs (SVS 20-39PCPlus cylinders) through it. I now run a pair of SVS PB12/Plus-2's through it.

    The SMS-1 has three RCA outputs so three subs can be plugged right in. However, it does not EQ each sub separately. All three get the same signal.

    I use an Onkyo PR-SC886 controller/preamp equipped with Audyssey EQ capablity. I run the SMS-1 calibration with both (all) subs first, then turn on the 886 and let it do its thing with Audyssey. A bit of tweaking phase and levels on each sub is worthwhile, too. I have been very happy with the results.

    One feature that gets very little attention when considering a sub EQ is the fact that the SMS-1 has remote controllable volume control. Different EQ profiles can also be changed via remote. (The IR codes can be programmed into any universal remote.) I find this to be a very useful feature after living with my SMS-1 for years. Some sound mixes may be a little bass-hot or could use a little boost in the bottom end. The SMS-1 allows this to be done very easily. The other LFE EQ solutions I have investigated do not allow this. While most AVRs and controllers allow adjustment of the bass/LFE level, it's much easier with the SMS-1.

    I've also taken the SMS-1 out of the chain and let Audyssey in the 886 do all the calibration. I prefer the SMS-1's contribution. I have considered buying a second SMS-1 and using one for each sub (which is why I clicked on this thread!) and may stil try it out. I have also owned the Behringer BFD, and Antimode and tried out the dedicated Audyssey box sold by SVS. I prefer the SMS-1. Another one might help a little more, but I don't think the impact will be enough to justify a full-price purchase. If I can find one at a good deal, though......
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited August 2011
    I found using a db meter on subs first to set gain for each sub then use SMS-1 to do it's job. Works great.
    engtaz

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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited August 2011
    rtart wrote: »
    I use an Onkyo PR-SC886 controller/preamp equipped with Audyssey EQ capablity. I run the SMS-1 calibration with both (all) subs first, then turn on the 886 and let it do its thing with Audyssey. A bit of tweaking phase and levels on each sub is worthwhile, too. I have been very happy with the results.

    One feature that gets very little attention when considering a sub EQ is the fact that the SMS-1 has remote controllable volume control. Different EQ profiles can also be changed via remote. (The IR codes can be programmed into any universal remote.) I find this to be a very useful feature after living with my SMS-1 for years. Some sound mixes may be a little bass-hot or could use a little boost in the bottom end. The SMS-1 allows this to be done very easily. The other LFE EQ solutions I have investigated do not allow this. While most AVRs and controllers allow adjustment of the bass/LFE level, it's much easier with the SMS-1.

    I've also taken the SMS-1 out of the chain and let Audyssey in the 886 do all the calibration. I prefer the SMS-1's contribution. I have considered buying a second SMS-1 and using one for each sub (which is why I clicked on this thread!) and may stil try it out. I have also owned the Behringer BFD, and Antimode and tried out the dedicated Audyssey box sold by SVS. I prefer the SMS-1. Another one might help a little more, but I don't think the impact will be enough to justify a full-price purchase. If I can find one at a good deal, though......

    I dont want to muddy up this thread, but can you PM me a bit more of your thoughts on those other products (antimode, Audyssey box) as those were also options I was looking at in the future.

    In my case as I said I have Audyssey 2EQ which doesnt EQ the sub, just shows its there and allows you to set a crossover (doesnt do as good a job on the mains, but I can live with its results).

    Other than sub EQ I dont need any more connections so I dont want to purchase another AVR just for the EQ at this time, just want to augment it with a product like this. My next AVR will have Multi EQ XT32 and be able to do multiple, but thats a couple years out.
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  • Mjaudio
    Mjaudio Posts: 2
    edited August 2011
    I am interested in your SMS-1 but can't send a PM yet. I am active over on the AVS under the same username so if your there as well shoot me a PM.

    What's up edogg!
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  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited August 2011
    Mjaudio wrote: »
    I am interested in your SMS-1 but can't send a PM yet. I am active over on the AVS under the same username so if your there as well shoot me a PM.

    What's up edogg!

    What up bro?!

    Sell with confidence here fellas. MJ is a great guy to deal with. I got my Cinenova from him and the transaction went as smooth as can be. :smile:

    Good luck guys.
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    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited August 2011
    Mjaudio wrote: »
    I am interested in your SMS-1 but can't send a PM yet. I am active over on the AVS under the same username so if your there as well shoot me a PM.

    What's up edogg!

    Sent you a pm with my e-mail
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  • Mjaudio
    Mjaudio Posts: 2
    edited August 2011
    edoggrc51 wrote: »
    What up bro?!

    Sell with confidence here fellas. MJ is a great guy to deal with. I got my Cinenova from him and the transaction went as smooth as can be. :smile:

    Good luck guys.

    I picked up one of those Mael 21" which may or probably won't work, it's a gamble.

    I will let you know if it works out so you can take a listen. I probably have a month or 2 before I finally get back to building subs though.
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  • edoggrc51
    edoggrc51 Posts: 584
    edited August 2011
    Mjaudio wrote: »
    I picked up one of those Mael 21" which may or probably won't work, it's a gamble.

    I will let you know if it works out so you can take a listen. I probably have a month or 2 before I finally get back to building subs though.

    Knowing how you are Mike, all I gotta say is, I'll take it. Consider it sold. :biggrin: :tongue::wink:
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    MINIdsp OPEN-DRC
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    LS6 Line Arrays
    LS-C Center Channel
    A/V-1RS Surounds
    Quad DIY LMS Ultra subs (powered by dual IPR-7500 amps)
    Panny AE-8000u
    2:35 110in Screen
    Oppo BDP-103
    Belkin PF60
    Harmony ONE

    2ch: Emotiva Stealth 8's, Airport Express
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  • engtaz
    engtaz Posts: 7,664
    edited August 2011
    Congrats
    engtaz

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  • PSOVLSK
    PSOVLSK Posts: 5,235
    edited August 2011
    Still for sale.
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