Asked to make a recommendation for Denon AVR-2311...

mdaudioguy
mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
edited June 2011 in Speakers
My brother-in-law has asked me to help him with choosing speakers.

Here's the deal -

He already bought a Denon AVR-2311 (105 wpc, no pre-outs) and he wants 7.1. Budget is not really an issue. If he had purchased a better receiver, I'd have had him in LSis, but that ain't happening now... It probably doesn't matter too much, because he just wants good HT sound - no interest really in musical sound quality.

He has a decent-sized, dedicated theater room; I'm guessing about 16x24?? So, I'm thinking I need to recommend some fairly efficient speakers. He's already planning on 2 in-ceiling rears. I thought perhaps the following might do:
RTiA5
CSiA6
FXiA4
RCi80
and then finding a fairly strong sub (HSU or Epik, maybe)

I know it's not ideal (yeah, get an amp), but would this AVR run these speakers?
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited June 2011
    Anyone?
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  • matchan
    matchan Posts: 73
    edited June 2011
    Consider Paradigm Studio 60s
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  • Almadacr
    Almadacr Posts: 185
    edited June 2011
    bump
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  • Almadacr
    Almadacr Posts: 185
    edited June 2011
    For sure , they will run but i guess with time and at higher volumes your speakers will be asking more power :biggrin: , He should really consider to anything with pre outs , and regarding the subs good choices but insted having one tell him to get 2 :biggrin: like the EPIK legends :biggrin: . If he already thought about the FXi , why not keep all the surrounds with Di/bipole speakers ????
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2011
    I used to own a Denon AVR-887 years ago which was the ancestor of your model. And it was rated 100/channel. Also had PRE-OUTS back then??

    The 887 would have 'no problem' handling that speaker set in a mid-sized room. But the 2311 is newer and lighter in weight so I'm not sure how the power on the 2311 compares with its heavier forefather? I guess it should be OK.

    Is there some reason you don't want him to get an AVR with pre-outs...because if he upgrades he may need them...it may even be useful for the A5s?

    I know Denon has made it VERY hard to buy a model under 1000 with pre-outs these days. And HK has eliminated pres from the new 36XX series?

    cnh
    Currently orbiting Bowie's Blackstar.!

    Polk Lsi-7s, Def Tech 8" sub, HK 3490, HK HD 990 (CDP/DAC), AKG Q701s
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited June 2011
    Almadacr wrote: »
    If he already thought about the FXi , why not keep all the surrounds with Di/bipole speakers ????
    He hasn't thought of any of this, because he doesn't really know much about it. He already has two holes in his ceiling for the back surrounds... Also, my room is configured with FXi on the sides and RTi books in the back, and I like it like that! :smile:
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited June 2011
    matchan wrote: »
    Consider Paradigm Studio 60s
    Why? Other than I see that they are slightly more efficient that the Polks (92 vs 90)... I mean, they better be nicer - they cost a good bit more. :wink:
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  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited June 2011
    Almadacr wrote: »
    Di/bipole speakers ????

    what does this refer to?
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3
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  • Almadacr
    Almadacr Posts: 185
    edited June 2011
    Lietuvis91 wrote: »
    what does this refer to?

    Check this LINK :wink:
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  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited June 2011
    Almadacr wrote: »
    Check this LINK :wink:

    Cool, thanks bud!
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,015
    edited June 2011
    In 7 channel mode,that receiver puts out 66 watts per channel, if he doesn't want to blast it then he'd be ok. Maybe the monitor line would be more suitable for that wattage.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • rooftop59
    rooftop59 Posts: 8,121
    edited June 2011
    Why not bookshelfs up front with dual subs? take a lot of the heavy lifting off the reciever. RTiA3s with the csi A6 and dual subs would be pretty awesome :cool:
    Living Room 2.2: Usher BE-718 "tiny dancers"; Dual DIY Dayton audio RSS210HF-4 Subs with Dayton SPA-250 amps; Arcam SA30; Musical Fidelity A308; Sony UBP-x1000es
    Game Room 5.1.4:     Denon AVR-X4200w; Sony UBP-x700; Definitive Technology Power Monitor 900 mains, CLR-3000 center, StudioMonitor 350 surrounds, ProMonitor 800 atmos x4; Sub - Monoprice Monolith 15in THX Ultra
    Bedroom 2.1     Harmon Kardon HK3490; Bluesounds Node N130; Polk RT25i; ACI Titan Subwoofer
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  • Lietuvis91
    Lietuvis91 Posts: 908
    edited June 2011
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Why not bookshelfs up front with dual subs? take a lot of the heavy lifting off the reciever. RTiA3s with the csi A6 and dual subs would be pretty awesome :cool:

    Oh man... now THAT"S an idea!!! I never thought of this, but it sounds like it would be a pretty neat setup :cool:
    Living Room 7.1 HT Rig:

    M70 | CS2 | M60 | Atrium5 - Surr. | SUB - Emotiva ULTRA12 + Tara Labs sub cable | Pioneer Elite VSX-52 | Parasound HCAs 1000A | Sony BDP-S790 | Belkin PureAV PF60 | MIT Exp2 Wires

    Bedroom 5.0 HT Rig (Music/Movies/Gaming) :

    LSi9 | LsiC | Lsi/fx | Marantz SR7002 | NAD T955 | Sony BDP-S360 | Belkin PureAV PF30 | AQ Blue Racer II ICs & AQ Type 4 wires | PS3
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  • keeneyrm01
    keeneyrm01 Posts: 80
    edited June 2011
    You should consider Klipsch RF series. Very efficient, the RF-62 II sensitivity is 97 db, that receiver would have no problem driving a full set up of that series. A lot of people like the upfront brighter sound of the horn tweeters of the Klipsch speakers for 100% HT use like you mentioned it would be used for.
    HT basement room:
    TV- 42in Panasonic S1 Plasma
    A/V Receiver- Onkyo NR807
    Blu-Ray- 80GB Sony PS3
    Power Supply- Monster HTS-1600
    5 Disc Sony CD/DVD Changer
    Time Warner HD Cable Box
    Speakers:
    Front- Polk RTi A3
    Center- Polk CSi3
    Side Surround- Polk RTi4
    Back Surround- Polk RM6750
    Sub- Outlaw Audio LFM-1 EX
    Bedroom:
    32in Visio LCD, Sony STR-DE685 AVR, MTX Monitor 12, Sony 5 disc DVD changer
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,015
    edited June 2011
    also a good idea on the Klipsch. See,a couple different avenues already.
    HT SYSTEM-
    Sony 850c 4k
    Pioneer elite vhx 21
    Sony 4k BRP
    SVS SB-2000
    Polk Sig. 20's
    Polk FX500 surrounds

    Cables-
    Acoustic zen Satori speaker cables
    Acoustic zen Matrix 2 IC's
    Wireworld eclipse 7 ic's
    Audio metallurgy ga-o digital cable

    Kitchen

    Sonos zp90
    Grant Fidelity tube dac
    B&k 1420
    lsi 9's
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  • gp4jesus
    gp4jesus Posts: 1,990
    edited June 2011
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    why not bookshelfs up front with dual subs? Take a lot of the heavy lifting off the reciever. Rtia3s with the csi a6 and dual subs would be pretty awesome :cool:
    +1 :smile: Consider FXiA6s instead of the '4s
    Samsung 60" UN60ES6100 LED, Outlaw Audio 976 Pre/Pro Samsung BDP, Amazon Firestick, Phillips CD Changer Canare 14 ga - LCR tweeters inside*; Ctr Ch outside BJC 10 ga: LCR mids “Foamed & Plugged**”, inside* & out
    8 ga Powerline: LR woofers, inside* & out
    *soldered **Rob the Man (Xschop) LR: Tri-amped RTi A7 w/Rotels. Woofers - 980BX; Tweets & Mids - 981, connected w/Monoprice Premiere ICs
    Ctr Ch: Rotel RB981 -> Bi-amped CSi A6 Surrounds: Premiere ICs ->Rotel 981 -> AR 12 ga -> RTi A3. 5 Subs: Sunfire True SW Signature -> LFE & Ctr Ch; 4 Audio Pro Evidence @ the “Corners”. Power Conditioning & Distribution: 4 dedicated 20A feeds; APC H15; 5 Furman Miniport 20s
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited June 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    In 7 channel mode,that receiver puts out 66 watts per channel, if he doesn't want to blast it then he'd be ok. Maybe the monitor line would be more suitable for that wattage.

    Yes, I found that same bench test data and already informed him of that. That's why I suggested small towers. The funny thing is, he always wants "the best", but that receiver isn't gonna run "the best."
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited June 2011
    rooftop59 wrote: »
    Why not bookshelfs up front with dual subs? take a lot of the heavy lifting off the reciever. RTiA3s with the csi A6 and dual subs would be pretty awesome :cool:

    If it were me, I'd do that in a heartbeat. It would be harder to convince him, but I can give it a shot.
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