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VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,793
edited June 2011 in Speakers
Have you guys ever considered moving the bass driver from the bottom to the top?

Just curious
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • blehmbo
    blehmbo Posts: 179
    edited June 2011
    I've never thought of it. Should be simple enough to test out. Flipping the entire speaker upside down and swapping the L and R should produce the same effect as swapping the connections to the crossover.

    Report back with your results if you decide to try it
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Have you guys ever considered moving the bass driver from the bottom to the top?

    No. Why? Should we also mod the crossovers? :wink:
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  • dorourke07
    dorourke07 Posts: 298
    edited June 2011
    I bet we should mod the crossovers!:biggrin:
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    I wouldn't, you may cause lobing.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    I think you should try it...

    I really like the change... (personally) - Listening to a set of LSi9 now
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    And I also will agree with you all - mod the crossovers! :-D
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited June 2011
    Dumb.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,015
    edited June 2011
    I remember an older speaker maker did just that,name escapes me, but they did sound like arse with a 15 incher up top.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    i dont mean flip a tower upside down i mean put the bottom midbass on top lol
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  • bluecomet
    bluecomet Posts: 1,118
    edited June 2011
    What do you hope to gain from this. Do you find them lacking in someway.
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    I think you should try it...

    I really like the change... (personally) - Listening to a set of LSi9 now

    Hmm... wonder what the 15's would sound like flipped......
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,139
    edited June 2011
    Trey, kind of off topic, but what do you think about making an internal "point to point" crossover for the LSi9 and bypassing the big 260 cap?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    i think this speaker could be awesome as a straight two way that bottom midbass just tries to do way to much which leads to atonal bass and muddy midrange... Imo
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    Conrad - would you be down for a listening session tomorrow if you are free?

    I would like someone with some LSi9 speakers as well to bring em over to A/B...

    Thoughts?
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  • Conradicles
    Conradicles Posts: 6,139
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Conrad - would you be down for a listening session tomorrow if you are free?

    I would like someone with some LSi9 speakers as well to bring em over to A/B...

    Thoughts?

    Can't make it tomorrow. I'll PM you soon about a day...
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    I have to ship these back Tuesday so my window is small...
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    i think this speaker could be awesome as a straight two way that bottom midbass just tries to do way to much which leads to atonal bass and muddy midrange... Imo
    It would be even more difficult to drive too.

    Want to design a new x-over, this should get you started.

    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=390-790

    http://audio.claub.net/software/jbabgy/PCD.html
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    Would be interesting to try...

    I am no crossover designer - I just like to mess around with stuff!
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited June 2011
    Depending on what Polk designed the optimum listening axis to be.It's possible that swapping positions may be benifiicial if it then puts your ears closer to the optimum axis.
    Conradicles wrote: »
    Trey, kind of off topic, but what do you think about making an internal "point to point" crossover for the LSi9 and bypassing the big 260 cap?
    I don't have the schematic but I assume the 260uf is in the shunt position in the lowpass section of the bass only driver?If so removing the cap will mean the bass only drivers output level will increase and overlap the output of the midbass driver over a greater range.The result would likely be an excess and further thickening of the midbass and lower midrange.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Fred, I believe he means bypassing the electrolytic cap with a film cap.
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  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited June 2011
    Face wrote: »
    Fred, I believe he means bypassing the electrolytic cap with a film cap.

    Doh:redface:.Thanks Mike.Bypassing and removing are entirely different things are'nt they.But in that case I would not expect anything transformational.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited June 2011
    Yeah I think we should just plug the amp straight into the drivers! :)
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Yeah I think we should just plug the amp straight into the drivers! :)
    Going active? :biggrin:
    FTGV wrote: »
    Doh:redface:.Thanks Mike.Bypassing and removing are entirely different things are'nt they.But in that case I would not expect anything transformational.
    Subtle, but positive change.
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  • JimAckley
    JimAckley Posts: 1,138
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Have you guys ever considered moving the bass driver from the bottom to the top?

    Just curious

    I did it to my LSi25s when I did my crossover mods and I don't regret it a bit. My ears are a lot closer to the plane of the lower drivers, so having the midrange there makes more sense.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,466
    edited June 2011
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    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Hmm... wonder what the 15's would sound like flipped......

    Don't do it bro... they have been flipped enough.:tongue:
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,596
    edited June 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    :wink:

    Don't do it bro... they have been flipped enough.:tongue:

    LOL....nope, not even close yet....not till the crossovers are modded :smile:
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