Here is a new one...

skrol
skrol Posts: 3,381
edited October 2011 in Vintage Speakers
Pair of POLK AUDIO Liquid Cooled Floor Speakers

http://baltimore.craigslist.org/ele/2455874362.html

"They are liquid cooled so they go mono instead of blowing right away. You just turn the volume on your tuner all the way down and they reset themselves."



Not affiliated by the way...
Stan

Main 2ch:
Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

HT:
Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

Other stuff:
Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
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  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited June 2011
    liquid cooling drivers, specifically tweeters, with ferrofluid has been around for a long time ad is hardly "a new one." I dont understand the switching to mono part, but liquid cooling is a real thing. are the SL2000 (or perhaps sl3000, in this case, i dont know) liquid cooled? I'm not sure, but I would say they probably are.
    design is where science and art break even.
  • Lowell_M
    Lowell_M Posts: 1,660
    edited June 2011
    I think it's the quoted comment that he's pointing out. Good stuff.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited June 2011
    I'm aware of the ferrofluid. It just struck me strange; conjuring images of hoses and radiators (passive of course).

    I believe the SL-3000 has ferrofluid. He has the SL-2000 and I am not sure if it does.

    Going mono... I figure he is really talking about the polyswitches kicking out to protect the tweeters.

    The passive radiator design is described as "Fluid Coupled" in the literature. He may be confused thinking that this means that the system is intended for cooling.
    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • newrival
    newrival Posts: 2,017
    edited June 2011
    skrol wrote: »
    I'm aware of the ferrofluid. It just struck me strange; conjuring images of hoses and radiators (passive of course).

    I believe the SL-3000 has ferrofluid. He has the SL-2000 and I am not sure if it does.

    Going mono... I figure he is really talking about the polyswitches kicking out to protect the tweeters.

    The passive radiator design is described as "Fluid Coupled" in the literature. He may be confused thinking that this means that the system is intended for cooling.
    Stan

    good points. It is certainly a strange description.:confused:
    design is where science and art break even.
  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited June 2011
    Apparently only driven by a little old lady on Sunday mornings.
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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited June 2011
    Apparently only driven by a little old lady on Sunday mornings.

    And Friday night Bingo.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited June 2011
    I can remember a person calling me when I worked in CS asking if they needed to change the fluid in their speakers. If you were a fairly casual audio owner I can understand how you would think that. I explained that the air inside the cabinet was behaving like a fluid to produce low bass information. Nice person, as I remember.
  • civilian
    civilian Posts: 357
    edited June 2011
    Nice looking, ask them if they have checked to see if the fluid is full.:biggrin:
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  • Schurkey
    Schurkey Posts: 2,102
    edited June 2011
    I think I know where the dipstick is.
  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    There is/was no fluid in the 2 or 3 SL2000s that I've dismantled.:smile:
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited June 2011
    skrol wrote: »
    I'm aware of the ferrofluid. It just struck me strange; conjuring images of hoses and radiators (passive of course).

    I believe the SL-3000 has ferrofluid. He has the SL-2000 and I am not sure if it does.

    Going mono... I figure he is really talking about the polyswitches kicking out to protect the tweeters.

    The passive radiator design is described as "Fluid Coupled" in the literature. He may be confused thinking that this means that the system is intended for cooling.
    Stan

    The SL3000 was the first tweeter to have ferrofluid. That began production in 1989, it was one of the first projects I worked on there. The SL2500 also had ferrofluid and began production a little later on. They began production of the 3000 first because it had greater power handling capability (vs the SL2000) and wanted to get it into the flagship SDA series as soon as possible. Now regarding the "fluid coupled" passive radiator. Yes, its true they used that terminology in the literature without too much, scratch that, any explanation. As it turns out it was a little marketing-manship by Sandy Gross. If you called customer service the explanation given was that air was the fluid. If you open any physics book it will list air as a fluid with a transfer coefficient of one. I am paraphrasing here so no hate mail please. I hope this helps. Cheers. :cool:
  • nadams
    nadams Posts: 5,877
    edited June 2011
    nap wrote: »
    The SL3000 was the first tweeter to have ferrofluid. That began production in 1989, it was one of the first projects I worked on there. The SL2500 also had ferrofluid and began production a little later on. They began production of the 3000 first because it had greater power handling capability (vs the SL2000) and wanted to get it into the flagship SDA series as soon as possible. Now regarding the "fluid coupled" passive radiator. Yes, its true they used that terminology in the literature without too much, scratch that, any explanation. As it turns out it was a little marketing-manship by Sandy Gross. If you called customer service the explanation given was that air was the fluid. If you open any physics book it will list air as a fluid with a transfer coefficient of one. I am paraphrasing here so no hate mail please. I hope this helps. Cheers. :cool:

    Cool history on the tweeters... Didn't know that any of the SL series were ferro-fluid cooler.

    And, we've been over the fluid coupling subject here a few times, but it's also cool to know who came up with the term... :cool:
    Ludicrous gibs!
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited June 2011
    Those must have been some fun times for Polk Audio with all the design tweaks and new models. I guess to day with the Blackstone and LSiM design and production release it has also been pretty exciting.
    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,152
    edited June 2011
    Nice speakers but maybe somebody can get them to sell them cheaper.


    I've never commented on the FLUID topic yet so this is my thing.

    That "TERM" made me think Polk audio was full of it and passed on buying they're flagship,which I did audition. I thought it to be a sales scam of a sort. I then passed on hearing any more affordable models because of it.:redface:

    I wish I auditioned a monitor 10 or 7 or even the 5 or 5jr. at that time. I would've been 15 years ahead of my game.:wink:
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,575
    edited June 2011
    Schurkey wrote: »
    I think I know where the dipstick is.

    Hehe....:biggrin:
    Political Correctness'.........defined

    "A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a t-u-r-d by the clean end."


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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited June 2011
    skrol wrote: »
    Those must have been some fun times for Polk Audio with all the design tweaks and new models. I guess to day with the Blackstone and LSiM design and production release it has also been pretty exciting.
    Stan

    Stan,
    You hear the expression "these are the good old days", well it was hard to realize it at the time but they were. Polk Audio was truly like no other work place and it had quite a cast of characters to boot. Cheers. :cool:
  • Joe08867
    Joe08867 Posts: 3,919
    edited June 2011
    Johnherpes, reported. Bye bye...
  • comfortablycurt
    comfortablycurt Posts: 6,745
    edited June 2011
    I'm going with the fluid coupled radiator theory here.
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    Audioquest Speaker Cables and IC's
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited October 2011
    They are listed again...

    http://baltimore.craigslist.org/ele/2675931933.html

    No affil.

    Stan
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited October 2011
    yea, I was going to go that route but to get aftermarket high flow filters and synthetic every 3000 miles was just too darned expensive.
    Too much **** to list....
  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,381
    edited October 2011
    If you go synthetic then I think you can extend the change interval. Just change the filter.

    Mine leak enough that I just top them off once in a while and don't bother changing. It just makes a mess on the floor but I blame it on the cats.
    Stan

    Main 2ch:
    Polk LSi15 (DB840 upgrade), Parasound: P/LD-1100, HCA-1000A; Denon: DVD-2910, DRM-800A; Benchmark DAC1, Monster HTS3600-MKII, Grado SR-225i; Technics SL-J2, Parasound PPH-100.

    HT:
    Marantz SR7010, Polk: RTA11TL (RDO198-1, XO and Damping Upgrades), S4, CS250, PSW110 , Marantz UD5005, Pioneer PL-530, Panasonic TC-P42S60

    Other stuff:
    Denon: DRA-835R, AVR-888, DCD-660, DRM-700A, DRR-780; Polk: S8, Monitor 5A, 5B, TSi100, RM7, PSW10 (DXi104 upgrade); Pioneer: CT-6R; Onkyo CP-1046F; Ortofon OM5E, Marantz: PM5004, CD5004, CDR-615; Parasound C/PT-600, HCA-800ii, Sony CDP-650ESD, Technics SA 5070, B&W DM601
  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,812
    edited October 2011
    Apparently only overdriven by a little old lady on Sunday mornings.

    Fixed that for you...