Audio definitions - "Impact"

treitz3
treitz3 Posts: 19,033
edited June 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
What does it mean to you?
~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • Outfitter03
    Outfitter03 Posts: 563
    edited June 2011
  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    realism,,,, or one of those thingys the nascar boys use to change tires
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited June 2011
    The proper leading edge of a note or sound. The transition should be fast but controlled. Volume is not the measure since very subtle and/or quiet sounds can have definite "impact".
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,730
    edited June 2011
    The good Dr. has the key about the leading edge of a note or signal:

    Using a single square-wave input cycle (okay, it's clipping but I'm using Paint and it's tough doing a sine wave cycle in Paint)


    Good Impact

    Fast response to the initial input. Grabs the input and sits on it.
    Little slop on the top, almost no ringing.
    Not as important, but fast decay with little overshoot on the bottom.
    Sign of good materials, fat magnet, very lightweight but sturdy materials.
    Good "Pop" regardless of level of input.

    Impact.bmp

    Bad Impact

    Think 70's Magnavox stuff.
    Crummy coil, magnet, heavy cone material causes a huge lag in getting this lump off the starting line. Poor materials may cause it to not even reach full travel on a normal strong input signal. On the loss of input, a lot of ringing from no braking (crummy coil/magnet/materials).
    Instead of "Pop", you get "Mumph".

    Impact Bad.bmp
    Sal Palooza
  • Disc Jockey
    Disc Jockey Posts: 1,013
    edited June 2011
    If you would just hook up the MITs I shipped you, you would have the answers to these questions.
    "The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage." Thucydides
  • Tony M
    Tony M Posts: 11,151
    edited June 2011
    Bass impact being felt by the body.Visceral impact.:wink:

    Sound presentation from speakers being realistic. Soundstage imaging impact.:wink:
    Most people just listen to music and watch movies. I EXPERIENCE them.
  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited June 2011
    IMPACT: A measure of strength or intensity to reproduce a burst of sound.
    ..... ><////(*>
  • doctor r
    doctor r Posts: 837
    edited June 2011
    Just for FB - Impact - the intesity of sound required to cause internal plumbing breaks,
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  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited June 2011
    LOL :biggrin:
    ..... ><////(*>
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited June 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    What does it mean to you?

    It left a lingering effect in my wallet or bank account. :biggrin:
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited June 2011
    Interesting. Defining terms is of course, 'subjective', consensual and historical. Look at any dictionary over the years. Usages change, some words pass away, neologisms are born, and compilers have to collect things like frequency of occurrence, etc.

    When one reads reviews there is also a certain amount of creativity involved. Certain reviewers have a greater descriptive facility than others. And some are just pretentious--using affected language so as to seem esoteric and erudite!

    I suppose asking people what they think a term means is a good exercise in trying to tease out the possible parameters of meaning and experience.

    The problem I have is that with "impact" the only understanding that I have of such a term as used in the Audio world comes DIRECTLY from 'reviewers' and not from my personal experience so I really couldn't say what I think it means--I've been conditioned by those I've 'read' and some were reasonable and others were, let's say, inventing and embellishing.

    cnh
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,033
    edited June 2011
    Well damn, I can not argue with that. Probably the best definition so far but as you know, I'm looking for the audio side of things.
    If you would just hook up the MITs I shipped you, you would have the answers to these questions.
    Review forthcoming. I think you will be surprised at the results. Until then, my lips are sealed.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~