Tyler acoustics owners - must read

VR3
VR3 Posts: 28,755
edited July 2011 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Tell your friends, this is important...

Open your speakers and make sure your positive wire that goes to your tweeter is not placed between two resistors. You are being robbed of enjoying your speakers. This is s@#$$y.

You need to move the wire to BEFORE the resistor - between the inductor and the resistor...

That is all, thanks
- Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    Tell your friends, this is important...

    Open your speakers and make sure your positive wire that goes to your tweeter is not placed between two resistors. You are being robbed of enjoying your speakers. This is s@#$$y.

    You need to move the wire to BEFORE the resistor - between the inductor and the resistor...

    That is all, thanks

    I thought this would be more of a return to sender type headline....oh well.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    Honestly if you own a set of speakers that has this wiring configuration you should return it to Ty. It chokes off the tweeter like a one year old baby and a plastic bag!

    It is like lifting a veil off the speakers. I tell ya what though I love the sound of Seas drivers - this is for sure.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Dennis Gardner
    Dennis Gardner Posts: 4,861
    edited June 2011
    Shows quite a lack of QC if this is common..............
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    I do not know if this is common - but I highly recommend all Tyler Acoustics owner check their speakers.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    Is this a tweak or assembly error?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    It is a crossover design for some Taylo speakers I believe to mellow out the highs. I dont think this is an assembly error.

    I have only seen it in speakers from his earlier designs.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    Also this is not a "knock" on Tyler Acoustics - this is just a FYI that some of his earlier stuff had this design and it should be changed and it was changed later in his designs.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    is this what you speak of?
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    100%

    Move that wire towards the capacitor.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    It also may work changing out the 6 ohm resistor - the resistor that is between the wire and the inductor to a smaller value if simply putting the wire before the resistor is to hot for you. But at 6 ohm that resistor basically suffocates that tweeter...
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,150
    edited June 2011
    Keep in mind, Trey does like it a little hot. Not that it's bad but folks should realize this before they go **** around with things. You can also play around with the value a bit to find the flavor of your liking, if you choose too.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    I will not argue that

    But this configuration is exactly like the Linbrook.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    please describe "hot" vs bright.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    It is more detailed - not harsh nor sibilant
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    It is more detailed - not harsh nor sibilant

    OK--detailed,,I can live with.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,656
    edited June 2011
    george daniel wrote: »
    please describe "hot" vs bright.

    Where Trey is concerned, I'd call it ear bleeding.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    haha - you are funny.

    Its not my fault you like the mush that is SDA
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    "organic" would have made me feel better
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    I consider what I hear to be an accurate reproduction. I work in a music store.

    Instruments dont sound "warm" - infact quite the opposite, instruments are bright and dynamic... not... mush.

    But hey - what can you do?
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • dbaldus
    dbaldus Posts: 730
    edited June 2011
    Does this go for the Linbrook Signature System as well?

    Also, I'm confused... was this a wiring mistake on Ty's part or do you just like how it sounds better?

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    From the looks of it -t his is the crossover design for the Taylo series...

    The Linbrooks should be the configuration I am suggesting
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,656
    edited June 2011
    Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »
    haha - you are funny.

    Its not my fault you like the mush that is SDA

    No mush here, my friend. Quite the opposite.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    Jesse... cant wait to see you in October. I miss you... you are a great dude 100%!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    well while you two banter a bit,,I'll move the tweeter wire in one of the 7U's and report back.

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    I was listening to the monitors last night that I recently rewired and they sound phenomenal, plain and simple. I even have a buddy who is fresh into audio comment they are way better than the other pair I had (He did not hear them modified)...

    Now I would be interested in hearing your thoughts if you do think moving the wire makes them bright how you like putting smaller values in place of the 6 ohm.

    Also you need to upgrade the 9 ohm that Ty used as a 10 watt to a 20 watt.
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    :smile:Slow down Trey,, I'm gonna move the wire first in one speaker,,as I recall,,there ain't alot of room inside the speaker now that I've added the barrier stuff,,I'll report back soon.
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited June 2011
    I'm excitable! What can I say!

    I love good sound!
    - Not Tom ::::::: Any system can play Diana Krall. Only the best can play Limp Bizkit.
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  • Eusebio
    Eusebio Posts: 16
    edited June 2011
    I have a pair of Linbrook System IIs (2nd generation). do you know if this design was affected?when i get a chance i will take a peak inside of mine but to be honest i know very little of what i'd be looking at
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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,755
    edited July 2011
    You should not have to make any adjustments
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  • Eusebio
    Eusebio Posts: 16
    edited July 2011
    thank you sir. i've been reading other threads regarding crossover upgrades for Tyler acoustics. unfortunately (maybe i'm better off) i have zero experience with crossovers, soldering etc. are you familiar with the Linbrook IIs?
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