Wyred 4 Sound Preamp On The Way

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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited June 2011
    Give me copper wire/gold connectors everytime.
    Source: Bluesound Node 2i - Preamp/DAC: Benchmark DAC2 DX - Amp: Parasound Halo A21 - Speakers: MartinLogan Motion 60XTi - Shop Rig: Yamaha A-S501 Integrated - Shop Spkrs: Elac Debut 2.0 B5.2
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2011
    Face wrote: »
    I hope those 500 hours come before Signal's 30 day money back guarantee is up.

    That's a good point. I do hate to ask for money back, the thing's not "defective" but if it needs to go it needs to go! I've been breaking it in constantly since it arrives, I will definitely know sooner than the 30 day mark, but I was planning on just reselling it.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    Chances are it's probably reached the sound it's going to have by now.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • Face
    Face Posts: 14,340
    edited June 2011
    nspindel wrote: »
    That's a good point. I do hate to ask for money back, the thing's not "defective" but if it needs to go it needs to go! I've been breaking it in constantly since it arrives, I will definitely know sooner than the 30 day mark, but I was planning on just reselling it.
    I know what you mean, but maybe you can trade them in towards a copper pair and a power cord, etc...
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Chances are it's probably reached the sound it's going to have by now.

    H9
    +1.
    "He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you." Friedrich Nietzsche
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,240
    edited June 2011
    The turn this thread took has me wondering about the silver XLR's now.

    I'm running silver (RCA's) from the CDP to the pre, from the pre to the amp, and from the amp to the tweeter binding posts.

    Could the XLR connection somehow contribute or should one expect conductor material to react the same regardless of the connection?

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited June 2011
    I-SIG wrote: »
    The turn this thread took has me wondering about the silver XLR's now.

    I'm running silver (RCA's) from the CDP to the pre, from the pre to the amp, and from the amp to the tweeter binding posts.

    Could the XLR connection somehow contribute or should one expect conductor material to react the same regardless of the connection?

    Wes

    I would expect the conductor material to have the same benefit or attribute, regardless of an XLR or Composite connection.
    CTC BBQ Amplifier, Sonic Frontiers Line3 Pre-Amplifier and Wadia 581 SACD player. Speakers? Always changing but for now, Mission Argonauts I picked up for $50 bucks, mint.
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,240
    edited June 2011
    I would too, but I'm a rookie XLR user so I wasn't sure if there is that much more at play with balanced connection

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2011
    Face wrote: »
    I know what you mean, but maybe you can trade them in towards a copper pair and a power cord, etc...

    I already have all of his cables :wink:

    Bit of an update from my side, I was home a little while ago and did try swapping in my copper xlr's. That cleared things up a lot. I'll email Frank and ask him for his thoughts. I've definitely been under the impression that silver can require 500 hours, so I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt if he tells me that it will mellow out with more break in. But as things stand right now with about 200 hours on the silver xlr's, I'm a copper guy all the way, at least in my current system.

    As for the DAC, I like it a lot, better than the Benchmark I think. I can't quite put my finger on why. From a tonal standpoint, I don't think there's much of a difference. But the W4S just seems more fluid. Transients have a lot more "motion" to them, without sounding any darker or brighter than the Benchmark. I can see why people like this piece so much. Assuming the copper is back in the rig to stay, I'm looking forward to doing a lot more listening.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,240
    edited June 2011
    ...oh yeah....

    :cool:

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
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  • I-SIG
    I-SIG Posts: 2,240
    edited June 2011
    Got the SC Silver Resolution XLR's in place a few minutes ago. Wow. Even with the fan noise (physical, not electrical) I swear I can already tell how much more quiet the balanced connection is. :cool:

    Good things are a-happenin'!! :tongue:

    Wes
    Link: http://polkarmy.com/forums

    Sony 75" Bravia 4K | Polk Audio SDA-SRS's (w/RDO's & Vampire Posts) + SVS PC+ 25-31 | AudioQuest Granite (mids) + BWA Silver (highs) | Cary Audio CAD-200 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Rotel Michi P5 | Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR's | Cambridge Audio azur 840C--Wadia 170i + iPod jammed w/ lossless audio--Oppo 970 | Pure|AV PF31d
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  • nspindel
    nspindel Posts: 5,343
    edited June 2011
    Now that I'm back to the signal copper
    XLR, things are sounding incredible. Amazing stuff.
    Good music, a good source, and good power can make SDA's sing. Tubes make them dance.
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