Carver TFM Owners - Preamps

audiocr381ve
audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
edited June 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
What preamps are you guys using with your TFM's that you've had success with? What hasn't worked for you?

My TFM-45 came back from repair yesterday. I'm using an old Marantz 2245 as a pre and I think it's the weak link (although when using the amp section and pre together on the 2245 it's just marvelous :eek:)
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited June 2011
    I run my 2.3TL's with the TFM-55. I rotate a C-1, C-11, Phase Linear 3000 series 2, a Yamaha C-4, and right now using a vintage Grommes 214 tuber. Mostly use the C-1 and C-11 for headphone duty.

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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    I run my 2.3TL's with the TFM-55. I rotate a C-1, C-11, Phase Linear 3000 series 2, a Yamaha C-4, and right now using a vintage Grommes 214 tuber. Mostly use the C-1 and C-11 for headphone duty.

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    I take it the C-1 isn't all it's hyped up to be?
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  • Polkersince85
    Polkersince85 Posts: 2,883
    edited June 2011
    One in good condition pairs well with the TFMs.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    Polkersince85 wrote: »
    One in good condition pairs well with the TFMs.

    Thanks for the input!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    Do not engage the Sonic Holography on the Carver pre when playing SDAs......it sounds like ****.:eek:
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Do not engage the Sonic Holography on the Carver pre when playing SDAs......it sounds like ****.:eek:

    I wouldn't dare adding crap like that to the signal. What's next, adding more chorus effect to Zepplin? :eek:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    FYI....that "crap", as you put it, is virtually identical in it's effect as the SDA "crap", they both sound great, just not at the same time.Sheesh, maybe you should do some more research before tossing out such uncomplimentary terms.:rolleyes: The more I think about it, you just might be an Adcom person.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    FYI....that "crap", as you put it, is virtually identical in it's effect as the SDA "crap", they both sound great, just not at the same time.Sheesh, maybe you should do some more research before tossing out such uncomplimentary terms.:rolleyes: The more I think about it, you just might be an Adcom person.

    Your panties are bunching.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    Your ignorance is showing.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Your ignorance is showing.

    Someone **** about me teasing a little button on a preamp?!
    :eek:

    I sincerely apologize for saying I thought something sounded like crap after you said it sounded like ****.

    Hahaha Lighten up dude!
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    Nope, not at all, just sayin you don't know what you are typing about. One day you are soliciting advice & info about Carver gear.......the next you are flappin your jaws like you know everything there is to know about it. Kind of funny, yet, a little sad too. Calm down, no need to impress.
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Nope, not at all, just sayin you don't know what you are typing about. One day you are soliciting advice & info about Carver gear.......the next you are flappin your jaws like you know everything there is to know about it. Kind of funny, yet, a little sad too. Calm down, no need to impress.

    Stating that I think sonic holography sounds like crap is somehow giving you the idea that I think I know everything? Really? What's up with the hostility? Maybe you feel entitled to throwing your attitude around at newcomers because you have an outrageous post count? If you feel like I'm threatening Carver by saying I don't like something of his, I'll front half the bill to get you counseling.

    Anyway, you're derailing the thread with your overly sensitive assumptions. Don't let your dress get caught in the door on the way out.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    Yeah yeah, OK chief you "win".:rolleyes:
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Yeah yeah, OK chief you "win".:rolleyes:

    Good, now lets get back to the thread which was posted because I didn't know something and wanted to learn. :wink:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    How much can you front, there is a whole group of female counselors whose services I'd like to benefit from ASAP!!!! Paypal good for you?:biggrin:
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  • renowilliams
    renowilliams Posts: 920
    edited June 2011
    I'll let you know,when I get my Carver back from referb next week, but my Anthem pre is working very nicely with my Rotel at them momment. It was a big improvement over using my Pioneer elite avr as a pre.
    "They're always talking about my drinking, but never mention my thirst" Oscar Wilde


    Pre-Amp: Anthem AVM 20
    Amp: Carver TFM-35
    Amp: Rotel RB-870BX
    Fronts : SDA 1B w/ RDO-194s
    T.V.:Plasma TC-P54G25
    Bluray: Oppo BDP-93
    Speaker Cables: MIT Terminater
    Interconnect Cables:DH Labs Silver Sonic BL-1isonic
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    renowilliams wrote: »
    I'll let you know,when I get my Carver back from referb next week, but my Anthem pre is working very nicely with my Rotel at them momment. It was a big improvement over using my Pioneer elite avr as a pre.

    I'm looking forward to hearing how it pairs, Reno. How much did that anthem pre run you?
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    Being on topic......I think you'd really like a Carver C-19 tube pre, it matches the TFM appearance. They're kinda rare & expensive tho.:cool: OH Yeah.....no SH on that model either.:biggrin:
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  • audiocr381ve
    audiocr381ve Posts: 2,588
    edited June 2011
    gdb wrote: »
    Being on topic......I think you'd really like a Carver C-19 tube pre, it matches the TFM appearance. They're kinda rare & expensive tho.:cool: OH Yeah.....no SH on that model either.:biggrin:

    Ha ha, cool. I'll look into that one.

    This hobby is driving me nuts lately :eek:
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    If the C-19 is a no-go, the C-11 & C-16 have the same basic looks but, they both incorporate SH too.
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited June 2011
    Another putz for the BL.

    BDT
    I plan for the future. - F1Nut
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  • amulford
    amulford Posts: 5,020
    edited June 2011
    Try a VTL 2.5, you can thank me later...
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  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited June 2011
    To be honest - I haven't heard a preamp make my SDA 1C's (When I had them) sound bad. I had an Adcom something, a Carver C1 for a while, a cheap tube preamp (Xiang Sheng or something like that), and the tube pre I have now I was able to try on the SDA's before getting my Sony's. All sounded either good - great. I think Good speakers can make up for some not perfect electronics. I, however, cannot speak to the best matches because I haven't listened to enough of them.

    James
    2 Channel/HT:
    Sony SS-M9 P's (ES version)
    Sony SS-M1CN Center Channel
    Polk RT800 Surround Speakers
    Odyssey Stratos Dual Mono Amplifiers
    TAD 150 Signature Tube Preamp
    Harman Kardon HK354
    Sony SACD Player
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,447
    edited June 2011
    Carver C16 one of the best IMO that Bob made C19 1st C11 3rd with my C16 in the middle
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    Moot - as he already sold the Carver to make room for Emo. But I assume the question still stands as he's going to need a pre.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • pitdogg2
    pitdogg2 Posts: 25,447
    edited June 2011
    then why is he asking?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    then why is he asking?

    He did have the TFM45 for a couple days before he sold it.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • thuffman03
    thuffman03 Posts: 1,325
    edited June 2011
    I have a C-6, C-19 and a Sunfire Classic preamp that I swap in and out. The C-6 is a silver faced C-16 and I have a C-9 to run with the Sunfire and C-19 for SH.

    I have also had a C-1 and a C-11 and a C-5. They are all good preamps IMO.
    Sunfire TGP, Sunfire Cinema Grand, Sunfire 300~2 (2), Sunfire True Sub (2),Carver ALS Platinum, Carver AL III, TFM-55, C-19, C-9, TX-8, SDA-490t, SDA-390t
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited June 2011
    pitdogg2 wrote: »
    then why is he asking?

    At this point.....I'm thinking that "he" may be a "she", you know, the ditzy kind that can't make up her mind!:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited June 2011
    Dodd ELP
    JC approves....he told me so. (F-1 nut)
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