SDA1 vs. SDA1c

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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    They "look" to be 1B's or 1C Studio versions. Because they are black they are most likely 1C Studio versions. Studio versions had a less expensive cabinet and retailed for about $200/pr. less than Standard 1C's. Correct on the 1 vs. 1C. FYI, his price is pretty high on those. I personally wouldn't pay more than $350 w/$400 being absolute tops if they are showroom mint.

    There is a lot to be said for local pick-up so that's always worth paying a little more for so you don't end up with a shipping nightmare of firewood.

    They are most likely Studio 1C's so I'd go for them, but don't overpay unless you are sure you won't find another pair locally for awhile.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited June 2011
    How well would a set of 1c work as rear surround/channel b with 1c in the front? Can the crossovers boards be replaced with the ones for sale in the flea market and be converted to true 1c status? Or are the drivers different in the 1b as well?
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  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited June 2011
    Those are studio version SDA 1C's. Sonically they are indentical to the ones with the wood caps on the top and bottom.

    I've always liked the "studio" look. Its a shame these aren't made of ebony wood or something and take the nod away from the oak tops and cloth sides.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited June 2011
    SDA1C wrote: »
    How well would a set of 1c work as rear surround/channel b with 1c in the front? Can the crossovers boards be replaced with the ones for sale in the flea market and be converted to true 1c status? Or are the drivers different in the 1b as well?

    It's a waste to use SDA's for surround speakers, that's just my opinion of course. Converting 1B's to 1C's would also require all new drivers, a very expensive proposition, I'm not even sure it could be done with the new board. 1B's have a split board x-over and I believe Gimpod has stated his boards don't work with split board SDA 1 or 2.

    Also be aware some early 1C's have a split board x-over and the board for sale won't work with those either.

    Also 2 sets of speakers run off the A and B speaker selector of a receiver will sound like ****, if the receiver doesn't shut down. If it doesn't shut down that means it's probably in severe current limiting mode and won't sound good at all. YMMV

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited June 2011
    Yea. I didn't mean a/b at the same time. I't was more of a question about the upcoming integrated/cd combo. Whether to look into a 5 channel amp and whether or not the 1c would work in the rear.

    The more I read the more it seems the SDA line is selfish lol. By that I mean they want to be 2 channel only and be the only speakers operating (less a complimentary sub perhaps) so your response doesn't surprise me. This characteristic isn't at all a disappointment to me as I prefer 2 channel for all but the most surroundish surround around. (I'll have to remember that one lol)

    So in light of the big nono on the 1c for rear what are your suggested options for surround speeks? I would prefer the same vintage as the 1c. I've seen the rta line. The rta 8 seems well suited but might need a stand or such to get it to ear level. Your thoughts?

    Thanks, 1C
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  • Marty913
    Marty913 Posts: 760
    edited June 2011
    SDA1C wrote: »
    So in light of the big nono on the 1c for rear what are your suggested options for surround speeks? I would prefer the same vintage as the 1c. I've seen the rta line. The rta 8 seems well suited but might need a stand or such to get it to ear level. Your thoughts?
    Thanks, 1C

    I tried SDA2's as surrounds with my 1C's and they sounded pretty bad. Other than that, I've used 4 or 5 different speakers as surrounds including NHT dipoles, FXi's from Polk, Boston, etc. Basically they all sounded pretty good as surrounds (the FXi and NHT dipoles were definitely the best).

    My own opinion is that given the limited frequency content usually directed to the surrounds, almost any decent speaker will get the job done as long as the sound pattern is diffuse rather than directed. I find tonal matching across the front is critical but not so much in the surrounds. All my surround placements have been well above ear level.
    Sony 60'' SXRD 1080p
    Amp = Carver AV-705THX 5-Channel
    Processor = NAD T747
    Panasonic BD35 Blu-Ray
    Main = SDA-1C Studio with RD0s, spikes, XO rebuild, rings, I/C upgrade
    Center=Polk CS10, Surround = Athena Dipoles, Sub= Boston 12HO
    Music/Video Streaming = Netgear NEO550
    TT = Audio Technica
  • SDA1C
    SDA1C Posts: 2,072
    edited June 2011
    So you haven't found any issues with different material tweeters? I have this recurring nightmare about spending a bunch of dough on a surround speaker set only to have the tweeters fight each other. It seems logical to me to have one of the rta line in the rear (the 15tl would be nice of you were in a stadium next to an auxiliary power facility lol) to easily match the rdo. Im leaning towards the rta 8t. It seems like a well matched surround for the 1c/cs 350 front and if it doesn't fit in well you at least have a nice pair of bookshelves.
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