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over50
over50 Posts: 201
edited May 2011 in Speakers
I'm getting a case of upgraditis. MY Question is should i buy a micropro 1000 and run dual polk sub's. Polk DSW micropro 2000 & 1000. Or one single Epik Legend?
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    I do realize in most case's 2 subwoofers are better then 1, i just have no knowledge in comparing the micropro to the legend. If anyone has listened to both these sub'` please share with me your input.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
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    Panasonic 605 blu ray
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2011
    By spec, the Legend goes a good bit deeper. For HT use, I think you would really appreciate that. I really liked the micropros paired with bookshelves for a music system, and it's probably a decent HT sub, too. But, I think the extra boom you get in a larger sub is worth it for movies.
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    Thanks for the the info. I`v got the rtiA3 for my surrounds. My goal is replace the M70 with something from the Rt series. I like bass so my next purchase is to figure out about my sub then replace my fronts. Thanks again.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    Thanks for the the info. I`v got the rtiA3 for my surrounds. My goal is replace the M70 with something from the Rt series. I like bass so my next purchase is to figure out about my sub then replace my fronts. Thanks again.

    I ran my RTiA3s as fronts with my Epik Valor (sealed) - could shake the CDs out of my CD rack! :biggrin:

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,231
    edited May 2011
    Having been a single sub person for most of my audio journey, I can say that stereo subs trump a single sub in more than just one aspect of the experience. Especially with HT.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2011
    ^^^ Epik gives a discount for purchasing two! :biggrin:
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  • IRLRaceFan
    IRLRaceFan Posts: 172
    edited May 2011
    For the first time last night I tried out my LSi's in my HT setup with two microPro 2000's - Rammstein live in Berlin DVD :biggrin:

    I can't speak for the Epik's, but I REALLY like two microPro 2000's! Polk Direct has them for $500 each.
    HT
    Onkyo TX-NR1008 | Magnepan 1.7 | Polk LSiC | Polk VM20 | Polk DSW microPro 2000 | Parasound HCA-2205A | Oppo BDP-93

    2-Ch
    Cary SLP 30 Tube Preamp | Polk LSi7 | Carver M1.5t | Audio-gd Digital Interface | W4S DAC-2 | MAC Mini | Denon DP300f & Pro-Ject Debut III TT's
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    Newegg has the micropro 1000 for $349.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    Newegg has the micropro 1000 for $349.

    Do it...x2...you know you do....:biggrin:

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • IRLRaceFan
    IRLRaceFan Posts: 172
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    Newegg has the micropro 1000 for $349.

    That's even better - go for it!!
    HT
    Onkyo TX-NR1008 | Magnepan 1.7 | Polk LSiC | Polk VM20 | Polk DSW microPro 2000 | Parasound HCA-2205A | Oppo BDP-93

    2-Ch
    Cary SLP 30 Tube Preamp | Polk LSi7 | Carver M1.5t | Audio-gd Digital Interface | W4S DAC-2 | MAC Mini | Denon DP300f & Pro-Ject Debut III TT's
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    The Micropro 2000 cost more or is close to the Epik. It seems from all the post i see and todays post that the Epik is a better sub. Is it that the 2000 is overpriced or the Epik is a good deal? Or am i misunderstabing the post i read that Epik is better?
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited May 2011
    Epiks are great subs. I can't speak for the Legend although I had considered a dual purchase. I ended up with a single Empire, man o man, I'm glad I made this choice.

    The customer service has been great with Epik as well, they really take care of their customers.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • IRLRaceFan
    IRLRaceFan Posts: 172
    edited May 2011
    If you like your 2000, then why not get a matching 2nd sub? From what I understand, the only diff between the 1000 and 2000's is the remote and (I think) the setup mic.
    I like the look of the microPro's better than the Epik's. If I ever decide to upgrade, I think I'd look at SVS...but I'm very happy for now.

    BTW, where in MI are you located?
    HT
    Onkyo TX-NR1008 | Magnepan 1.7 | Polk LSiC | Polk VM20 | Polk DSW microPro 2000 | Parasound HCA-2205A | Oppo BDP-93

    2-Ch
    Cary SLP 30 Tube Preamp | Polk LSi7 | Carver M1.5t | Audio-gd Digital Interface | W4S DAC-2 | MAC Mini | Denon DP300f & Pro-Ject Debut III TT's
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    West side of the state. Grand Rapids. I like the 2000, got a good deal on CL for $250. The One spec that sold me was, has 1200 watts of continuous power and 2400 peak..Thats much more power then the Epik and most subs in this price range. I`ve never heard the Epik's , but everything i have read is all positive and everyone highly recommends the Epiks. Also the Polk's are 8" and the Epiks are 12".. wondering if that would be a big difference.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • IRLRaceFan
    IRLRaceFan Posts: 172
    edited May 2011
    You're in the better part of the state - much better than SE Michigan.

    I imagine the 12" will dig deeper.
    HT
    Onkyo TX-NR1008 | Magnepan 1.7 | Polk LSiC | Polk VM20 | Polk DSW microPro 2000 | Parasound HCA-2205A | Oppo BDP-93

    2-Ch
    Cary SLP 30 Tube Preamp | Polk LSi7 | Carver M1.5t | Audio-gd Digital Interface | W4S DAC-2 | MAC Mini | Denon DP300f & Pro-Ject Debut III TT's
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    The Micropro 2000 cost more or is close to the Epik. It seems from all the post i see and todays post that the Epik is a better sub. Is it that the 2000 is overpriced or the Epik is a good deal? Or am i misunderstabing the post i read that Epik is better?

    The Polk micropros are quality subs - they sound and look great. The Epik, on the other hand, well, it's just not as pretty - you could say that they probably stressed function over form. So, if your Blu-Ray soundtrack contains material down to 20 Hz, you probably won't hear/perceive it with the mp 1000/2000. You should definitely feel it with the Legend. The Legends have TWO 12" drivers. I'd like to get my hands on one, and now that I've been researching them... I need to stop! :eek::smile:

    BTW, I think the wattage difference is not as significant to either sub's performance as it may seem.
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited May 2011
    mdaudioguy wrote: »
    BTW, I think the wattage difference is not as significant to either sub's performance as it may seem.

    That's what I was thinking.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    Geoff4rfc, Thanks for the feedback. The spec i took from the polk product page. When compare to other subs the polk dsw seems way high on the watts/power. The power is the reason i bought the dsw 2000. I`,m wondering if its time to sell or give my 2000 to my son and pull the trigger on Epik?? The dsw sounds good, but i have not listening to the legend.That why i'm reaching out on the forum for information . I`m also thinking of upgrading my M70 to rt series .Thats another topic. I will taKE YOUR Advice and look at avs forum.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    Geoff4rfc, Thanks for the feedback. The spec i took from the polk product page. When compare to other subs the polk dsw seems way high on the watts/power. The power is the reason i bought the dsw 2000. I`,m wondering if its time to sell or give my 2000 to my son and pull the trigger on Epik?? The dsw sounds good, but i have not listening to the legend.That why i'm reaching out on the forum for information . I`m also thinking of upgrading my M70 to rt series .Thats another topic. I will taKE YOUR Advice and look at avs forum.

    If you're thinking of upgrading your 70's, here's a little tip, a pair of refurb RTi12's on polks ebay site are going for 749. I want them right now, just can't afford this upgrade at this time. It's killing me because my want factor for these speakers are off the chart.
    Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2

    Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)

    EXPERIENCE: next to nothing, but I sure enjoy audio and video MY OPINION OF THIS HOBBY: I may not be a smart man, but I know what quicksand is.
    When I was young, I was Superman but now that old age has gotten the best of me I'm only Batman
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  • over50
    over50 Posts: 201
    edited May 2011
    I saw the same speakers . They are the same as rtia9 but have an update box, all else the same. The only negitive is $100 shipping. If i bought those ,i`d keep the sub, and i already have the rtia3 for my surrounds. The 12's are not that much more then a new sub.
    Marantz SR 7007
    polkaudio RTi10
    polkaudio CSi A6
    polkaudio RTiA3
    B&K ST.3140 Power Amplifier
    HSU Research VTF2 MK3
    Vizio P65-C1
    Panasonic 605 blu ray
    Onkyo DS-A4 i-pod Dock
    Universal Remote
    BDI Icon 9429 TV Stand
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited May 2011
    over50 wrote: »
    I saw the same speakers . They are the same as rtia9 but have an update box, all else the same. The only negitive is $100 shipping. If i bought those ,i`d keep the sub, and i already have the rtia3 for my surrounds. The 12's are not that much more then a new sub.

    Used Legend on audiogon for a nice price...(no affiliation)
    http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homesubw&1312000108&/EPIK-Legend

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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