Portable speaker for THUNDEROUS parties?!

Lietuvis91

My borther throws a lot of parties where he DJ's. He currently has an adcom 555 and Bose 301s and a mixer that he uses which he says does a good job but when he uses his mixer and pushes lots of bass through the speakers it seems to make the adcom "overload" light come on, and also during the last party he saw a "light" from the ports of the bose 301 speakers themselves :eek: (crossover busning up?), followed by a scent of burning plastic...

So evidently he abuses the living heck out of this setup and it's not really holding up too well. So he wants to get a speaker that would be:
1)portable-ish (he drives around in a corola, college kid )
2)able to handle the abuse
3)able to fill the room like the bose does.

This is primarily for techno/rap/pop music. This is not for big dj-ing events, this is purely for fun house parties on college campus.

I can't think of anything in the polk line-up that would fit the bill here. I might let him borrow the m70s and the parasound 1500a to see how it holds up, but havent decided...

Maybe something from Klipsch would be a good idea for him or some other brand?
He's not looking for clearity here, just strong/jarring sound and bass that will make you dissy and really feel the music, lol!

treitz3

Lietuvis91 wrote: »

I might let him borrow the m70s and the parasound 1500a to see how it holds up...

Man, you are generous for even thinking about that. Crazy but generous. I'd just find a used pair of Cerwin Vega's for him.

VR3

Dude...

Pro Audio...

Crown, QSC, Electrovoice

Google them. 130 db - boom boom, all that

polkfarmboy

I know when I have a party I hide my logans in the spare bedroom

Lietuvis91

treitz3 wrote: »

Man, you are generous for even thinking about that. Crazy but generous. I'd just find a used pair of Cerwin Vega's for him.

well, maybe blind faith really... I'm thinking if the m70's are powered right, which should be the case with the parasound 1500a, then hopefully... what could go wrong, right?!

I would actually like to know... cuz I never push my gear to it's limits, so I just don't know. I get the feeling the mixer is what really pushes gear through a good workout... volume too, i'm sure!

Vr3MxStyler2k3 wrote: »

Dude...

Pro Audio...

Crown, QSC, Electrovoice

Google them. 130 db - boom boom, all that

LOL! I will have to look into those, appreciate the suggestions!

Any amp ideas? or will the adcom handle the speakers you suggested...

polkfarmboy wrote: »

I know when I have a party I hide my logans in the spare bedroom

Yeah, we're not talking nice stuff here like your logans. He needs stuff that you wouldn't mind banging up dragging around town, that would hold up and put on a wild show.

packetjones

Also Look into to the Polk hit-master. I heard one and was pretty impressed with it. I can imagine that a few of them would rock pretty good.

Lietuvis91

packetjones wrote: »

Also Look into to the Polk hit-master. I heard one and was pretty impressed with it. I can imagine that a few of them would rock pretty good.

yeah, $40 at walmart... that would be good to try. I'll have to tell him about the hitmaster too.

Lietuvis91

anyone have a clue on what the light coming out of the bass port on the bose 301 was? I'd be interested to know if anyone has seen that before. Burning crossover or something else?

Joe08867

It was the Bose burning up. Don't be crazy and let him break your Polk's too. He needs to learn restraint before that.

Tell your Bro to take it easy. 301's aren't boom boom speakers. Cerwin Vega, And just about anything Pro audio would do better. Tell him to look at NADY pro audio. It's real cheap and will boom boom better than the 301's ever could..

erniejade

For cheaper$ .behringer powered speakers or american DJ powered speakers or harbinger. Built in amps, built in limiters, no extra gear to carry. Just plug the board directly into the speakers.

If they want to get into somethig a little better look for a used set of jbl powered eon. Light weight with a good kick and again built in amps.

For my rig, I have RCF tops with KV2 bottoms. For my bigger system I am using electrovoice zx5A tops with the same kv2 bottoms.

cnh

As said, you need some PA type speakers like the MTX-12" that are occasionally for sale at BB, or some CVega 12" or 15" and a Pro-amp. No one cares about sound quality when you're trying to fill a dance floor with brilliant highs and thumping bass!

A Crown amp, Pyle, or whatever should provide gobs of power and SPL but not much 'refinement'.

cnh

EndersShadow

Wait.....your saying Bose isnt good ......

Lietuvis91

Good input guys, I really appreciate it! I will send him this thread via e-mail and tell him to look into all this(i'm getting pretty tied up at work here). I'm sure he will find it very useful.

It's funny that cnh mentions the MTXs because that's the first thing I thought of. Cheap and really punchy!

As for BOSE not being the best... well... according to my bro they did an awesome job, until they started smoking...

Best part for him is he works for BB, so he can get discounts on most gear.

I think I will stick with the concensus here and NOT let him borrow my m70s w/ the 1500A. I get the feeling they might not sound the same after one of his parties. Glad y'all chimed in on that, and pointed out, what should have been: the obvious :redface:

Joe08867

I understand you want to help out your Bro but sometimes you need to look out for numero uno.

thesurfer

Hey man, if music purity and accuracy, are no issue, I highly recomend Cerwin Vega,, They were made for 2 Things,, big Bass, and full blown partying,,, Get a good used pair, and you well be set, ive had 2 pairs, when i was younger,,, There the best for partys, Bose arent party speakers, as a matter of fact, i cant find nothing good to say about them,,, Great marketing scam,, thats about it, Get the Vegas,, thank me latter.

Lietuvis91

Joe08867 wrote: »

I understand you want to help out your Bro but sometimes you need to look out for numero uno.

Well, I was also kind of curious how they would perform under pressure like that. But I like them too much in my HT setup just as they are now... so the chance of them getting damaged really just isnt worth it.

thesurfer wrote: »

... Get the Vegas,, thank me latter.

I see that these are getting quiet a few votes here. Do you have a particular model in mind?

halo71

Another party speaker to look at is the Infinity SM series. They can usually be had very cheap. Like the SM152.

Joe08867

It's not that we are voting for Cerwin Vega's as much as they are fine for beating up.

I would never subject my SDA's to a House Party with the bass turned up to 11 and the volume knob twisted till it broke. Could they handle it? Probably but why would I do that when you could get some cheap threeway's of Craigslist with a 15" woofer to beat on.

At the volume and venue were talking about, it's not sound quality it's about quantity.

I would still vote for Pro Audio speakers. They are designed more for the use/abuse he is dishing out. Something like these from MTX. http://www.mtxhome.com/p/prosumer/tp2400.aspx

Lietuvis91

Seems that series of MTXs are 4 omh, I'm thinking he's probably better off with something 8ohm, right?

madmax

The first thing I would add is a subwoofer (car box or whatever, hey he can use it in his car on the way to the party), an amp for the subwoofer and then cross over the main speakers so only midrange and highs are coming out of them.

mu1166

The Cerwin 15's work wonderful for this as do the MTX speakers. I've always been a fan of the MTX AAL 212 (2 12's, 6" mid and a horn tweater). Worked great throughout my college years and now are serving their purpose in the garage setup. Plenty of bump with either one.

txcoastal1

I second the vega's for beaters or used JBL pro's