Fastener pricing at Lowes / Home Depot etc...

jinjuku
jinjuku Posts: 1,523
edited May 2011 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Is INSULTING. I needed some hex key cap screws and t-nuts to install the drivers for my Statements. 1.75" 10-24 screws were $.65 PER. T-nuts were like $.42 PER.

So some quick math: .65 + .42 = $1.07 X 40 = $42.80.

I want to plug Suburbanbolt.com. I have 100 of each coming for less than $20 shipped.
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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited May 2011
    What's insulting is your signature.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2011
    Insulting? Who are they insulting? Home Depot isn't a bulk outlet, but a retailer. The majority of their customers arent' buying in bulk, so they can't make their money like that, nor do they have to.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited May 2011
    Haven't you learned that you are paying for the convenience of the purchase yet? The very same lumber that they have can be had at half to 1/3rd the cost and delivered to your door for free but you can't get it the same day and if you only need one piece....and you need it on a Sunday? You go to Home Depot and pay for the convenience of completing your project that day.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Haven't you learned that you are paying for the convenience of the purchase yet? The very same lumber that they have can be had at half to 1/3rd the cost and delivered to your door for free but you can't get it the same day and if you only need one piece....and you need it on a Sunday? You go to Home Depot and pay for the convenience of completing your project that day.

    700% markup. Whew... That is a lot of convenience. Since this is in the DIY section it should help someone out on their next build.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    What's insulting is your signature.

    You'd have to talk to Cathy about that...
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    Insulting? Who are they insulting? Home Depot isn't a bulk outlet, but a retailer. The majority of their customers arent' buying in bulk, so they can't make their money like that, nor do they have to.

    They are not insulting anyone. The pricing is insulting and no bulk purchase option. You could say the pricing is absurd (for me).

    I try to hit the mom and pop stores, but everyone knows what happened to them. They have generally done better for me in the past on this stuff where they will have a box of 25 (not just two in a plastic sealed packet) that they will give a break on. That I don't mind. Just like AV retailers they are disappearing.

    It's not even an option at the big box stores. As time goes on more and more of my purchases are obtained online.

    I was just quoted $55/sq foot for remnant 'cultured' (fake) granite:eek: Called a friend a few states away the runs a granite business: $25-30 TOPS.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited May 2011
    Dude, you aren't helping anyone. If Joe Schmoe has a computer, I'm quite sure he has a brain cell or two that tells him that things get cheaper online. Common sense, man.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Dude, you aren't helping anyone. If Joe Schmoe has a computer, I'm quite sure he has a brain cell or two that tells him that things get cheaper online. Common sense, man.

    That is what I thought about caps/resistors/inductors but people still ask where to get that stuff. I thought they had a computer too.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,148
    edited May 2011
    You are talking about allen screws and t-nuts. This kind of thing falls right in line with black paint, man. Caps/resistors/inductors I can understand but screws and nuts? Come on...
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited May 2011
    Lighten up guys for pity's sake! Not every posting has to end up in an argument, does it?
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    Lighten up guys for pity's sake! Not every posting has to end up in an argument, does it?

    Food for though Ken:

    I have this same exact thread at two other forums. Mainly because I thought a source for inexpensive speaker building fasteners would be beneficial.

    As I'm sure you could imagine those threads haven't broken down into the infantile posting that is common here.

    As 'obvious' as Trietz would like to make it sound I don't recall a thread speaking to this before at PF.
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited May 2011
    I don't see anything infantile or even all that argumentative here. Did something get deleted?
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    I don't see anything infantile or even all that argumentative here. Did something get deleted?

    A comparative analysis would be in order Bob:

    Alternate thread 1:

    Thread 2:

    You'll notice that in both those threads productive talk about where one can source both online and sometimes locally fasteners if someone has the itch to pick up more than a couple and not get reamed.

    Notice that the focus is on sourcing stuff for speaker builders (hence the DIY section) and not the fact that I called fastener pricing at big box stores with zero bulk options like I used to see insulting/absurd/ludicrous. You could say the conversation was moved forward at those forums.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited May 2011
    I don't believe any of the reply postings were infantile, maybe goading or hostile might be a better description. As I've said before there will always be people with differing opinions, some more adamant than others. It can be hard to read another person's posting, that you disagree with, and not make a counter posting that is argumentative. But, this leads to more animosity and bad feelings and a general reduction of the potential of CP. Yes, you've tweaked the other person's tail and you might get an angered response, but the person who is a more occasional CP reader comes to an unfortunate conclusion that any person's posting will be a target. I lose track of who threw the first stone, but I ask that everyone consider before they post a reply if they are doing it with the overall benefit of CP's total readership in mind.
  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited May 2011
    Maybe you don't have a signature line that "insults" someone else on the other forums...food for tought I hope at least.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    Maybe you don't have a signature line that "insults" someone else on the other forums...food for tought I hope at least.

    You mean like another person here that makes fun of X-Capri in their signature line for really liking his Emotiva XPA-2?

    My signature line is a quote of someone else. Maybe you shouldn't confuse the messenger with the message.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited May 2011
    I will add that certain newer members here attract the ire of some other long vested members based on their overall attitude and behavior on the entire forum. So while in the end, perhaps the goading or hostile intent isn't based on said subject of this thread, but on past and current behaviors and attitudes elsewhere all over the board by said newer member.

    Just an observation...........and I'm sure I'm guilty of it as well. When someone establishes a reputation, people react to the entire reputation, not just the subject of a particular thread.

    H9
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited May 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    Maybe you shouldn't confuse the messenger with the message.

    You obviously strongly agree with the messenger so I don't really see the difference. But you are correct other's have just as flippant quotes in their sig. I don't think your sig is out of line, but you have to take the lumps if others find it in poor taste or even a little hostile. You choose to put it there, so reap what you sow and stop playing the innocent victim, as you always do.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
  • DollarDave
    DollarDave Posts: 2,575
    edited May 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    You mean like other people here that make fun of X-Capri in their signature line for really liking his Emotiva XPA-2?

    My signature line is a quote of someone else. Maybe you shouldn't confuse the messenger with the message.

    I didn't make a reference to anyone but you. I said, "Maybe you don't have a signature line that "insults" someone else on the other forums...food for thought I hope at least.". I don't understand your confusion with that.

    As far as this forum goes, in your signature line you are making it your own statement when you quote someone else. You happen to like that quote, so you use it over and over again to tweak that member. That is very immature and appears as though you are trying to be an instigator.

    Just my thoughts, you may disagree, I think you probably will, and you will continue to post and argue.
  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I will add that certain newer members here attract the ire

    H9

    I have seen posters here with post #1 draw the regulars out. Including a female asking about amps and her boyfriends setup.

    Or asking about Emotiva. We both have seen those threads. It's a general malaise that infects PF from time to time.
    heiney9 wrote: »
    You obviously strongly agree with the messenger so I don't really see the difference. But you are correct other's have just as flippant quotes in their sig.

    H9

    Of course I agree with Cathy. She is one of the few level headed long timers here. She calls things as she see's them and I have to say her assessment is 99% of the time spot on. I don't mind that in the least. Signature included.

    So I'm not playing the victim. If you are going to start calling out peoples sig lines call everyone on it. If you don't it will get called out every time. Trust me some people have had a rather controversial sig line and I have yet to see them called out on it.
  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2011
    Come on guys, if you don't care for the guy, don't reply. Ease up on the attack mode all the time. He's passing on some info that may be helpful to someone else.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    DaveMuell wrote: »
    I didn't make a reference to anyone but you. I said, "Maybe you don't have a signature line that "insults" someone else on the other forums...food for thought I hope at least.". I don't understand your confusion with that.

    As far as this forum goes, in your signature line you are making it your own statement when you quote someone else. You happen to like that quote, so you use it over and over again to tweak that member. That is very immature and appears as though you are trying to be an instigator.

    Just my thoughts, you may disagree, I think you probably will, and you will continue to post and argue.

    Dave, find me one post of yours where you have called out anyone else's signature. Until then you are a hypocrite.
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,658
    edited May 2011
    To reiterate my point, the person making the reply has to think, a little bit, about the bigger picture. Place the person who you disagree with on your ignore list, you won't read their postings. It will be the exact same thing as if they never made the posting.
    Just think before posting is all we ask.
    Thanks.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,197
    edited May 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    If you are going to start calling out peoples sig lines call everyone on it.

    I DIDN'T call you out, simply commented on your comment about your sig after you got called out. I actually stated your sig didn't bother ME. Read the damn posts a little more carefully before you respond.

    Anyway, Steve is correct time to move along. If someone can benefit from the original info.........that's what it's all about.

    H9
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  • txcoastal1
    txcoastal1 Posts: 13,306
    edited May 2011
    And the are the "Days of Our Lives"....oh wait that cancelled that one too
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    I DIDN'T call you out, simply commented on your comment about your sig after you got called out. I actually stated your sig didn't bother ME. Read the damn posts a little more carefully before you respond.

    Anyway, Steve is correct time to move along. If someone can benefit from the original info.........that's what it's all about.

    H9

    Sry... You didn't. Your point is made.
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,654
    edited May 2011
    I bought the same hardware for less than $10.00 shipped.
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited May 2011
    You're building a what, $1000 kit and the last $20 is getting you wrapped up?

    Really?
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,448
    edited May 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    You'd have to talk to Cathy about that...
    You are the one using it, not her.

    It is a direct attack on me for using your very OWN words in my signature. Now if you would just follow through on it and go away. I really don't care about the quote Juju, as everyone here knows you for who you truly are. Meanwhile I will continue to use your own words as they exemplify the real reason you are here. We all have more than a clue about you.

    As an aside, the quote I chose to use is among the tame stuff. On your flickr account, you insult other members of CP with names I will not use here. Your site shows just how troubled you really are. I hope you get the help you need soon.
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited May 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    You're building a what, $1000 kit and the last $20 is getting you wrapped up?

    Really?

    No, not wrapped up. Just it was expensive, they only had a few on hand and the sales associate wasn't willing to do a bulk order (or didn't know how). They didn't make it easy.

    But that isn't germane to the spirit of the initial post. It was to let DIY'ers know about an outfit that offers this stuff in bulk at about most reasonable price I saw in a few google searches. They even have a live chat feature. Dave answered my questions as to what SKU I needed from them in just a minute or two. Real service (that I wasn't expecting) for a 200 piece order that cost $16 vs a clueless associate.

    So not only did I save almost $30, I also have plenty left over to complete other builds with.
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