oh boy here is another one

bigaudiofanatic
bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
edited May 2011 in The Clubhouse
http://www.maximumtech.com/audio-cable-claims-truth-or-flimflammery
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MIT Exp 3 Speaker Wire
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2011
    Some funny exerpts:
    Oxygen Free: Bogus!

    Full disclosure: the speaker cable I use happens to be billed as 99.998-percent oxygen free, but I didn?t choose it for that characteristic.
    Directional Cables: Bogus!

    Full disclosure: Some of the cables I use in my home theater have these arrows printed on them; but here again, I didn?t choose them for that characteristic.

    I love how he claims its bogus, yet his gear proves otherwise lol....

    No, cables make no difference at all.... just dont look at my gear to see my Audioquest direction cables that are Oxogen free and cryogenically frozen.....

    I bought them because...ummm...ummm....ummm the Magnolia guy told me to ...... lol
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • exalted512
    exalted512 Posts: 10,735
    edited May 2011
    His gear doesnt prove anything, it's just what he happened to have. Most of my wire is 100% oxygen free...it doesn't mean I think its better because of it.

    -Cody
    Music is like candy, you have to get rid of the rappers to enjoy it
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,590
    edited May 2011
    exalted512 wrote: »
    His gear doesnt prove anything, it's just what he happened to have. Most of my wire is 100% oxygen free...it doesn't mean I think its better because of it.

    -Cody

    While true if this is the case and your going to write an article saying its not the case, why not switch all your cables over to the cheap stuff for 3 months and see if you notice a difference. You notice he said nowhere in there that he actually did some listening tests. He simply quotes theory.

    Theory and real life experience dont always match up.

    And with that I am out of this thread as I sense trouble abrewin'
    "....not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be counted." William Bruce Cameron, Informal Sociology: A Casual Introduction to Sociological Thinking (1963)
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited May 2011
    Cables may be marked directional for 2 reasons:
    1. The direction in which the copper was "drawn"
    2. The shield ground is sometimes not connected on both ends of the cable; directionality becomes important so hum isn't passed along to the next component.

    Higher purity copper has less grain per foot; the belief being that less grain "barriers" of purer copper improves fidelity.

    He's arguing the wrong points, due to lack of education.

    Much of this is theory of course, but I would imagine a purer copper is certainly not going to make things worse. The Audioquest website has very good articles on the different purity levels of copper, how they are classified, and the theoretical advantages to purer copper.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2011
    This just proves with the advent of the internet any fool can have his own blog and write whatever he/she feels like. It's up to the reader to decide if it has merit for their own personal situation.

    Full disclosure: This guy is a moron and anyone who believes him is a moron too!
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Pangea AC14SE MKII | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node 3 - Tubes add soul!
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited May 2011
    He is right about one thing and wrong about everything else
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  • fishbones
    fishbones Posts: 947
    edited May 2011
    I believe...because I listen. :tongue:
    ..... ><////(*>
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  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited May 2011
    Everyone knows the direction the copper or silver was when it was formed is how it should be drawn for best sound quality.

    You should also listen in the same direction for best results.

    I pop my pimples cuz they ask me to.

    Charlatan's the lot of 'em.
    Thorens TD125MKII, SME3009,Shure V15/ Teac V-8000S, Denon DN-790R cass, Teac 3340 RtR decks, Onix CD2...Sumo Electra Plus pre>SAE A1001 amp>Martin Logan Summit's
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