Adcom GTP 750 preamp

Oldfatdogs
Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
edited May 2011 in Electronics
This preamp just up on craigslist,not a bad price.It would be paired with a gfa7300.I now have it with a harman kardon avr25II with the gfa7300.Would this be a step up or two steps back?The h.k. doesn't sound bad just wondering if this would sound better?Am I just beating my head on a wall looking for better?This pre has a 5 channel stereo mode,the H.K.has a3 channel mode.What do you more experienced people think?
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2011
    Don't know your pre...but, as Sal, points out and I think he has one in his system, the GFP-750 is the best two channel pres Adcom ever put out. So if you have a good price on that?

    cnh
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  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited May 2011
    No here is the link http://sacramento.craigslist.org/ele/2376829343.html I googled it good reviews but have not heard it myself.
  • carvcom
    carvcom Posts: 240
    edited May 2011
    I owned that pre/pro for a couple of years, not bad.
    The 5 channel stereo is neat, really works well.
    I had it set up with a GFA-5800 for fronts, & a GFA-5503 for rears & center.
    I thought it sounded great until I swapped it out for a B&K ref 30, it was like night & day!!
    The 750 was very shrill & plain, no depth at all.
    I've never listened to the HK, so I guess it could be a step up.
    My opinion on the GTP-750
  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited May 2011
    That's not a GFP-750, I see...it's the GTP which is a HT pre?

    Can't really comment on that...but it's not in the same league as the GFP-750 two channel for which a good price would be 650-700 used.

    cnh
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  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited May 2011
    Thats what I'm looking for is 5 channel.I like to be surrounded by music.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited May 2011
    The GTP-750 entirely different than GFP-750. Not even on the same planet as the GTP has a built in tuner and is a mediocre sounding pre-amp.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
  • Oldfatdogs
    Oldfatdogs Posts: 1,874
    edited May 2011
    Thanks I guess I will look at something else I'm not looking for a mediocre sounding pre-amp.It did get good reviews on stereophile mag.But Ill take the opinions here.
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited May 2011
    It's mostly because it does HT processing and has a tuner. Too many things stuffed in there. The HT processing is ancient.

    I think it would be more of a lateral move.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
  • soundfreak1
    soundfreak1 Posts: 3,414
    edited May 2011
    Have to chime in here! I've had the 750 and I found it too harsh and bright for my taste(like a warmer less colored image! Even had a 500 with same results. Don't know what your budget is but I tried a b&k 20 than the ref. 30 and still have it,much better all around! More accurate without coloration cleaner and much better 2ch results. More safistcated and accurate! At least with my parasound.figure about 350. To 450.00 deppending on condt. And provanance. A very good buy! The b&k out proformed many others also in side-by-side shoot-outs on my sys. I am upgrading to a 70 when I can find the right one. Mine is on craigs list in my area and when sold it will be replaced only by a b&k 70. Have been very pleased with b&k and don't have any complaints at all. Also easy to sell when you want to upgrade, had more trouble moving the adcoms than the b&k when I upgraded models.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited May 2011
    Adcom makes/made 2 decent pre-amps and one stellar pre-amp.

    GFP-710 and 715 are pretty good, especially for the money used.

    the GFP-750 is an outstanding pre-amp.

    The GTP series have tuners in them hence the "T" designation and were never what I considered an "audipophile" caliber pre-amp. Some of the GTP series were also for HT and by today's standard are outdated........they never sounded all that good.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!
  • DON73
    DON73 Posts: 516
    edited May 2011
    I have a GTP 500II and a B&K Reference 31 and My ears prefer the GTP. I have the Reference 31 connected to a B&K ST 140 in another room and they work well together. My favorite preamp is my GFP 565 . connected to a 5800 and my B&W 801s all of which I've had for about 15yrs. The preamp, amp and speakers are ancient and outdated but so am I and we go together quite well.
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  • kevhed72
    kevhed72 Posts: 5,083
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Adcom makes/made 2 decent pre-amps and one stellar pre-amp.

    GFP-710 and 715 are pretty good, especially for the money used.

    the GFP-750 is an outstanding pre-amp.

    The GTP series have tuners in them hence the "T" designation and were never what I considered an "audipophile" caliber pre-amp. Some of the GTP series were also for HT and by today's standard are outdated........they never sounded all that good.

    H9

    Doesn't the GFP 750 have HT bypass?
  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,249
    edited May 2011
    kevhed72 wrote: »
    Doesn't the GFP 750 have HT bypass?

    Yes, it does. It's a processor loop input and output that can be used for any stand alone piece. I run my tube pre-amp thru it when I want to listen to tubes.

    H9
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | BlueSound Node3 - Tubes add soul!