where can I get new metal jumpers from amp to pre-amp?

danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited August 2011 in Electronics
i've read that by replacing the old metal jumpers that are on older receivers can help increase the sound on some older stereo gear. .... anyone know where I can get new ones? are there ones better than others?
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2011
    They're shorting bars, you can get them from PE and not really.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2011
    well. no luck on anything called shorting bar @ PE... ??
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  • On3s&Z3r0s
    On3s&Z3r0s Posts: 1,013
    edited May 2011
    Is this what you're talking about: http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Male-Male-Preamp-Jumpers/dp/B0006VMBGO?

    They sound better than the old steel jumpers that came with my NAD integrated.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2011
    On3s&Z3r0s wrote: »
    Is this what you're talking about: http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-Male-Male-Preamp-Jumpers/dp/B0006VMBGO?

    They sound better than the old steel jumpers that came with my NAD integrated.

    yes.. that is what i'm looking for... I wonder if they come in pure silver wire???
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2011
    You go get a nice peice of solid copper from the local hardware store, and cut and bend. I've done it I don't know how many times. You don't need the ground, just the copper. Cut it, bend it, stick it in. If you want it pretty, contact Frank Dai @ SC and have him make you a pair.

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  • skrol
    skrol Posts: 3,437
    edited May 2011
    I have found that the distance from the pre-amp to main jacks are not a standard distance even among the same manufacturer. It is hit or miss finding the proper size pre-fab metal jumper. You are better with custom made jumpers or go with the short interconnects.

    I am surprised no one suggested coat hangers yet.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited May 2011
    If you're hung up on silver, you should be able to get some 14ga from a jewelry supply for about $20-$30 / foot.

    For example:
    http://www.fusionbeads.com/shop/product/31927/
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2011
    i found the ones that go with my newly acquired Concept 11.0 in the bottom of the box.. so those will do for a week.. then i'll look for another better higher quality ones. I hear that a good jumper can make a difference.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,421
    edited May 2011
    Shorting pins like on XLR to Single Ended

    Dedicated Audio has Cardas.

    http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/1895/5158

    Or do you mean actual rca to rca type straps?
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,421
    edited May 2011
    You probably mean something like this.

    http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/115/5274
    "Appreciation of audio is a completely subjective human experience. Measurements can provide a measure of insight, but are no substitute for human judgment. Why are we looking to reduce a subjective experience to objective criteria anyway? The subtleties of music and audio reproduction are for those who appreciate it. Differentiation by numbers is for those who do not".--Nelson Pass Pass Labs XA25 | EE Avant Pre | EE Mini Max Supreme DAC | MIT Shotgun S1 | Puritan Audio PSM136 Pwr Condtioner & Classic PC's | Legend L600 | Roon Nucleus 1 w/LPS - Tubes add soul!
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,986
    edited May 2011
    Those are nice Brock, real nice.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    You probably mean something like this.

    http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/115/5274

    those are nice.. a bit pricey.. but nice.. :smile:
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited May 2011
    Why are they there to begin with?:confused:
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  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,692
    edited May 2011
    brgman wrote: »
    Why are they there to begin with?:confused:

    Most of the time so you can put a equalizer in line with the reciever. So you go from reciever -> Equilizer -> Back to reciever. That or so you can use a external amp. My HK 3490 has them as well
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2011
    Audioquest has made them for years.
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  • brgman
    brgman Posts: 2,859
    edited May 2011
    EndersShadow wrote: »
    Most of the time so you can put a equalizer in line with the reciever. So you go from reciever -> Equilizer -> Back to reciever. That or so you can use a external amp. My HK 3490 has them as well


    Thanks.never really needed to know.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2011
    skrol wrote: »
    I have found that the distance from the pre-amp to main jacks are not a standard distance even among the same manufacturer. It is hit or miss finding the proper size pre-fab metal jumper. You are better with custom made jumpers or go with the short interconnects.

    This is true. I have a hundred or so of "stock" NAD jumpers and they don't fit every RCA connection.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Shorting pins like on XLR to Single Ended

    Dedicated Audio has Cardas.

    http://www.dedicatedaudio.com/inc/sdetail/1895/5158

    Or do you mean actual rca to rca type straps?

    I have some of these and they fit what the generic ones did not.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited May 2011
    Here they are...sorry, thought it was PE.

    http://www.futurlec.com/RCA-Jumper.shtml

    Here's a thread here with a couple clicks and slight hand movement.

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79177
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2011
    I'm going to bring this thread back to life as I just solved this issue for myself. I wanted to ditch the steel jumpers, so contacted the supplier of all my other cables, Luminous Audio, and they sent me out a DIY kit as a solution. Tim sent me four of his sliver, locking RCAs, and two short pairs of his silver reference wire. I soldered the connections myself last night, made the plugs, and their great! Highly recommended!
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,576
    edited August 2011
    What's the cost on that Zingo? I'd be interested in a pair for the goody box.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2011
    I've been chatting with Tim from Luminous, and he is considering offering RCA jumpers that match each of his RCA cables with corresponding terminations and wire. With nothing officially on the table yet, he will send you out the same "DIY jumper kit" I bought from him with the silver, locking RCAs and reference, solid silver wire for $100 a pair. It's a solid package as the silver jumpers removed some fog from my system, and added just enough sparkle that works well with my copper speaker cables. PM me and I'll send you his email address, or he can be reached through the website.
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited August 2011
    Tim just sent me the pricing on the new RCA jumpers that will be a match to his current ICs; the DIY silver jumper set continues to be an option. This is a very nice option not only for reference quality jumpers, but they will also exactly match you current Luminous Audio ICs. They are not on the website yet, but should be if Tim is a smart guy. :biggrin:

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