conrad Johnson and Monitor 12 speakers ?

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  • inspiredsports
    inspiredsports Posts: 5,501
    edited May 2011
    Evrythngmatters wrote: »
    Only agenda was to see if anyone else tried the combo. So far though it seems as if there is something in the water here. This is a place to ask about Polk speakers and the components that drive them, no? inspiredsports, you may want to see a doc man, you're gonna blow. Nothing was said to warrant your negative post so I must ask you stay out unless you actually have something intelligent to add. So, as the door swings both ways, Buh Bye.

    Look people, I did not come here to start anything negative. Just curious about Polk speakers and how they play with certain equipment. Lets not take to a place there is no reason to go. This is a place with vast resources that I was excited about learning from concerning Polk products. If the forum is representative of Polk (posters that have been here years and years) I now know to stay away from Polk. If a general Polk question sparks this type of hostility I feel for the future of this place. Once again, if someone comes to visit, do you always treat newcomers this way? And if you think I came here to brand bash that was not the intention. After all some of the TOP posters have said that the vintage Polks like the Monitor 10's do have a smeared midrange and boomy bass. I found this through the SEARCH function on here. So I assume you all already know this so it's not that I suppose. Only thing I can think of is that you think I came here to sell speakers. NOT. Was only after a yah or nay on the combo. Anyone want to start from scratch and use the forum for what it was intended for, audio related topics and not to bash the hell out of the new guy.

    " . . . was only after a yah or nay on the combo. Anyone want to start from scratch and use the forum for what it was intended for, audio related topics and not to bash the hell out of the new guy."

    Except up until this point, no one said a word about the combo being less than what you wanted until YOU did. No one in this thread said anything about a smeared midrange and boomy bass until you did.

    Maybe your question should have read something like, "I've read in other posts that Monitor's have a smeared midrange and boomy bass and am afraid they will sound that way with my CJ MV50/Pioneer C-90 combo. Is the midrange and bass criticism true? How can I correct for it?"

    At any rate, you've answered your own questions, so . . . Buh Bye.
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  • dorokusai
    dorokusai Posts: 25,577
    edited May 2011
    The Monitor 12, the monkey coffin version, is not a sought after loudspeaker and has bloated bass response with an inaccurate midrange. As far as it being coupled with a piece of CJ or Pioneer, as mentioned previously....how can you really go wrong? Feel free to overthink it all but synergy isn't hard to find nor accomplish in my travels when it comes to vintage gear.

    The Monitor lineup from these days are very forgiving and easy to match up gear since it's pretty efficient to boot.
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  • george daniel
    george daniel Posts: 12,096
    edited May 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    No, that's just all the meds they have you on.

    hey,, where can I get some? :smile:
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  • TroyD
    TroyD Posts: 13,077
    edited May 2011
    I've run CJ amps on vintage Polks....with stellar results. The Pioneer preamp, eh, not so much.

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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2011
    TroyD wrote: »
    I've run CJ amps on vintage Polks....with stellar results. The Pioneer preamp, eh, not so much.

    BDT

    Pioneer shines when it does and doesn't shine when it doesn't. All depends on Synergy and the rest of the gear you got.

    I got a C-90 and can't say it's the best pre but it works well for what it is.

    I can't deny C-90 is nothing special. But C-90 and M-90 together isn't a bad combo as Pioneer puts it together. In fact, I had two C-90s and one sounded night and day better than the other. I guess the other one just needs major recapping or something.

    FWIW, good working C-90 and M-90 together is something a man can enjoy for the rest of his life. :wink:
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »

    FWIW, good working C-90 and M-90 together is something a man can enjoy for the rest of his life. :wink:

    We'll have to agree to disagree. I had that combo, granted a long time ago when it was new, and in hindsight it was certainly adequate, but nothing I'd enjoy for even 1/4 of my life. :wink:
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    We'll have to agree to disagree. I had that combo, granted a long time ago when it was new, and in hindsight it was certainly adequate, but nothing I'd enjoy for even 1/4 of my life. :wink:

    Well, I think it's a good thing not all men is named Brock. :biggrin:

    Yes, I meant adequate for a man. I would be content with C90 and M90 if I don't hear something a lot better.
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  • heiney9
    heiney9 Posts: 25,165
    edited May 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »

    Yes, I meant adequate for a man. I would be content if I don't hear something a lot better.

    Ha....ha.... we all would James,,,,,we all would. :wink:

    H9
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2011
    It sure would sucks all to be named "James" or "Brock". I guess the variety gives meaning in lives. :smile:

    So, the hobby continues....
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  • halo71
    halo71 Posts: 4,603
    edited May 2011
    megasat16 wrote: »
    Yes, I meant adequate for a man. I would be content with C90 and M90 if I don't hear something a lot better.

    So where would ya be if you had only ever heard a Bose Wave? :tongue::eek:
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  • audiobilly
    audiobilly Posts: 351
    edited May 2011
    No hi's no lo's, must be BOSE!

    Ha Ha!
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  • megasat16
    megasat16 Posts: 3,521
    edited May 2011
    halo71 wrote: »
    So where would ya be if you had only ever heard a Bose Wave? :tongue::eek:

    Bose Wave Radio. :biggrin:
    audiobilly wrote: »
    No hi's no lo's, must be BOSE!

    Ha Ha!

    The old Bose speakers are really not that bad. :smile:
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  • Evrythngmatters
    Evrythngmatters Posts: 187
    edited May 2011
    heiney9 wrote: »
    Get rid of Pioneer C-90 pre-amp. It's not doing the rig any justice. Mediocre for sure. H9

    I agree. I gave the pre to a buddy of mine and he loves it. He's just a casual listener and not into the hobby like most of us here are.

    After weeks of listening to various equipment,cables,preamps,amps,speakers and so on this is what I paired with the 12's. A Sansui AU-D9 integrated,Meridian 508.24 CD player,AudioQuest Type 4 speaker cables,AudioQuest Columbia interconnects. The Sansui paired with these speakers is amazing. You have to have the ability to tweak the crap out of the sound to get the 12's to sound their best imo and the Sansui was up to the task. The result is very smooth yet powerful. Almost has a tube like sound that is just sooooo sweet to listen to. For the little bit this system costs I am amazed at how good it sounds. Think I'll give this sytem to a friend of mine after I've listened to it for awhile. Then, on to build another.
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