what do you all think of this idea for DVD series?

danger boy
danger boy Posts: 15,722
edited April 2011 in Music & Movies
there are some series that people in here own such as The Pacific or Band Of Brothers.. that have a lot of interest in being watched...

what do you all think of someone putting up their DVD's of say Band Of Brothers to make the demo rounds????

This is how I see it working.. but it must be on the honor system first off..

I have BOB on Blu ray.. say.. 4 other club members want to watch it..., then send it to the next person on the list.. in turn anyone on the list would also have to place a series in rotation to make the rounds for others to watch.

thoughts?
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited April 2011
    I'd say trading any kind of copyrighted material like that on a public forum is probably not a good idea, legally.

    Conceptually it sounds good because it would give more people a chance to get exposed to more stuff, but I can't see any scenario where Polk would be ok with us doing that here, just from a liability standpoint.
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    As long as you're trading the original disks and not copies, I don't see any legality issue. You're allowed to lend your friends your DVDs legally, aren't you?
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  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2011
    bobman1235 wrote: »
    As long as you're trading the original disks and not copies, I don't see any legality issue. You're allowed to lend your friends your DVDs legally, aren't you?

    I doubt if the legal eagles with the studios will consider strangers on the Internet as being friends, but you never know.
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  • Big Dawg
    Big Dawg Posts: 2,005
    edited April 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    I doubt if the legal eagles with the studios will consider strangers on the Internet as being friends, but you never know.

    I don't think it matters. You can lend your property to perfect strangers too. You just can't make copies for them.
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited April 2011
    I'd say trading any kind of copyrighted material like that on a public forum is probably not a good idea, legally.

    Conceptually it sounds good because it would give more people a chance to get exposed to more stuff, but I can't see any scenario where Polk would be ok with us doing that here, just from a liability standpoint.

    HUH? i purchased BOB at Costco.. and no way could I make copies of a BR series... or would I ever attempt to do such a thing.

    I was talking loaning my purchased series to another member who in turn would loan me one of their series on DVD. no copies.. no liability, no Polk Audio involment whatso ever.
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,833
    edited April 2011
    Sounds like a pretty cool idea to me, and don't see where it would be illegal.

    Would actually promote additional sales, IMO; watch "BOB" just once ? I guess it can be done, but if you see it once, you'll want to watch it again .... and again. That translates into "Gotta-have-my-own-copy".

    The only liability, if any, on Polk's part is if someboy in the loaner-loop has a kid brother who decides to use the disks for skeet practice (or some such knuckleheadedness) and the disks get destroyed/lost.
    Last thing Polk would want is to have to referree some dispute between Polkies.

    If it is done on an honor system, than that has to stay private. Disks get lost/stolen/broken/fugged up, than that is strictly private between parties. No open threads. No griping in the Clubhouse.

    I think it would actually work, and is a good idea.
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    I cant imagine why anyone would think there would be a legality issue here.... You can give your disc to the world as long as you do it one at a time with the original disc.
  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    IS that a serious question? You've heard some of the crap the RIAA / MPAA have tried to get away with, right? When MP3 players first came out, the RIAA tried to tell you that ripping a CD to your computer so you could listen to it on an MP3 player was illegal. For your own use.
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  • ysss
    ysss Posts: 213
    edited April 2011
    Another idea:

    Start a thread and list out some recommended series... post updates to it when there are good promo, sales and/or new versions of said titles.

    Simpler to implement and it will give (just some of) the benefit of OP's idea...
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited April 2011
    I was bored, so I Googled DVD Fair Use and found this information that makes me think the DVD owners (the studios) might not like this idea. I added the bold to some text.

    "The thing is, each DVD you have in your collection, even though you purchased it, is actually copyrighted, and owned by another person. You are essentially purchasing the right to use it. Within the copyright laws, which are not at all clear, it is stated that after purchase, the DVD movie can be used as defined in "Fair Use".

    http://ezinearticles.com/?What-Are-The-Laws-Regarding-DVD-Use-And-Duplication&id=283426

    "Most DVDs include an FBI warning screen, which indicates that the copy is only licensed for noncommercial exhibition in the home."

    http://www.ehow.com/list_6806004_fair-use-copyright-rules-dvd_s.html

    "Another exception to copyright laws that forbid exhibition is public libraries, which receive special rights in the U.S. Code. Libraries may screen DVDs for the public without receiving permission, as long as they don't charge patrons to view the film."

    http://www.ehow.com/list_6806004_fair-use-copyright-rules-dvd_s.html

    The library part seems to say that only libraries can legally lend DVDs to others, but I am not a lawyer. However, I did spend the night in a Holiday Inn in Phoenix 2 weeks ago when I missed my connecting flight.



    "The Federal Copyright Act (Title 17 of the U.S. Code) governs how copyrighted materials, such as movies, may be used.

    Neither the rental nor the purchase of a home video copy of a movie carries with it the right to show the movie outside the home.

    No additional license is required to view a movie inside the home by family or social acquaintances and in certain narrowly defined face-to-face teaching activities. Taverns, restaurants, private clubs, prisons, lodges, factories, summer camps, public libraries, daycare facilities, parks and recreation departments, churches and non-classroom use at schools and universities are all examples of situations where a public performance license must be obtained. This legal requirement applies regardless of whether an admission fee is charged, whether the institution or organization is commercial or non-*‐profit, or whether a federal or state agency is involved."

    https://www.churchpublishing.org/media/custom/IN-Formation/MovieLicensing&Permissions.pdf
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