Status of SVS...

VR3

go to radioshack buy a player, then return it when your done.....simple

HBombToo

Originally posted by kberg
Doc, I could use some assistance here, too. But, I'm not sure how to do it since my DVD player doesn't play burned CD's. Suggestions?

go buy a pos portable for 40 bucks.

I did

Twin

kberg

Originally posted by HBombToo
go buy a pos portable for 40 bucks.

pos? Sorry, I don't really wake up for another hour.

Grimster74

Okak Spec, I fixed the whole SUBS thing. As far as the phase issue, right know it is set at "0", can't really tell a difference when i change it to "180" so if you can send me a cd that will help me decide I would greatly appreciate it, just let me know what info you need. As far as Amazon.com, not sure what setup disk I need to look for, is there anyway you could possibly send me a link. Thx.

Grimster74

kberg, pos... "peice of SH@#", hope it helps....

dorokusai

Grim - Here is the link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005PJ70/qid=1062339792/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-2113718-7346303?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

Dr. Spec

Originally posted by Grimster74
As far as the phase issue, right know it is set at "0", can't really tell a difference when i change it to "180" so if you can send me a cd that will help me decide I would greatly appreciate it, just let me know what info you need.

The CD is 1/12 octave test tones from 10-100 Hz. It will show a 5-6 dB dip at the xo when the sub is out of phase with the mains. Reverse the phase and the dip will disappear. My experience with SVS thus far is that 180 works best.

Email me with your addy and I'll send you a copy. It has 41 mp3 music files. Don't play them too loud or you will burn up the VCs since it is essentially a 6 minute test tone. About 80-85 dB is fine. It also pops between tracks and this is normal.

If you have Excel, I'll send you a spreadsheet to plot the sweep results and which also compensates for the RS meter roll-of with correction factors specific to that meter.

If your FR sweep looks funny or you have a big peak somewhere, $120 will get you into a BFD parametric EQ that will work wonders to flatten the curve.

Doc

malikarshad

Originally posted by Dr. Spec
The CD is 1/12 octave test tones from 10-100 Hz. It will show a 5-6 dB dip at the xo when the sub is out of phase with the mains. Reverse the phase and the dip will disappear. My experience with SVS thus far is that 180 works best.
Doc

Hey Doc. Lot of people like me would want to test the phase of our SVS subs. Is there anywhere we can buy this CD.
I use AVIA for calibration. Is the new Video Essential DVD better than the AVIA?

fireshoes

Hey Dr. Spec, would you email the mp3s and spreadsheet too? I've been playing around with my PSW650 position, but I don't have a good sweep disc. There is a sweep on AVIA but it doesn't stop on any tones so it's pretty much impossible to get the measurements. I've been moving it around and have gotten a better location, but with the disc I'll be able to pinpoint my best spot. Early results are big peaks at 80 and 60hz and then nothing else lol.

HBombToo

Originally posted by kberg
pos? Sorry, I don't really wake up for another hour.

"Pile of ****", like my memorex mp3 decoder. 35 bucks at target or something like that.

sorry;)

Twin

Dr. Spec

OK everyone, here is the weblink for the test tones. Burn your own unless you don't have a burner. If you are burner-less, I can send you a burned CD, just email me your address.

There is no reason it shouldn't play in a standard DVD player, as they are just mp3 files.

http://beyond_gomer.tripod.com/

If you want the Excel spreadsheet, email me and I'll send it back.

Doc

faster100

were gonna have to put ED on salary soon, all these sub questions and f-a-q's we need to know from the doc, :eek:


He needs a holiday too, LOL Its labor Day.. enjoy and just get a damm SVS and be done with it, No more will it be better then, will it outdo, Yes for the price it will do everything "Most people" want.. of course im just kidding while i dump a few down my hatch.. which doesnt happen around here to often,

Grimster74

Yesterday I had to go to my local Lowes store to by some self adhesive felt pads to place on back of speakers, under lamps, candles holders, basically anything hanging on the walls. With the Polk subs the only problem I had with rattles and vibrations were the sconces on the back wall. Now, the air pressure in the room changes so bad every damn thing in the house rattles. No joke, yesterday my brother came over to see the new SVS so I first put in U-571, chapter 15, DEPTH CHARGES. All my brother and I could say was DAMUM, it was intense. Then came, LOTR-FOTR, once started, neither of us could stop watching it. My neighbor, which his house is about 150 YARDS from mine called 10 minutes after we started to movie and said he could hear it at his house and my windows and his were closed. So, I thought he was joking so I had to see for myself. Guess what, you could definately hear it, faint, but it could be heard. Damn SVS's are BAD TO THE BONE. I was somewhere in the neighborhood of about 5 clicks under reference in case anyone wanted to know.

Dr. Spec

Another big score for SVS. Naturally. Glad you are loving it.

We cranked TTT at 10 under RL last night after a dinner party and went for all the big bass scenes just for fun. The SVS has amazing power and clarity. I could have sworn I had ButtKickers under the seats - and that's with a concrete floor!

Wow, 5 under Reference. Is that true Reference Level as determined with AVIA, SV, or VE? Or just the AVR test tones? The AVR test tones are all over the board in terms of volume relative to Reference Level. Once you get a calibration disc, your Master Volume setting relative to Referenece Level might change a bit - just be aware of that. For example, I can only play the U-571 DTS DVD at about -14 before the surrounds become unbearably loud.

Tell you what works really well for rattles - truck cap foam tape. It's got adhesive on one side so you can stick to under whatever is rattling, and you can cut it to length and a roll of 50' is only like $8 - buy it an any auto parts store. I've gone through one whole roll and my room still rattles a bit. The worst offender is the HDTV itself - the plastic shell/frame buzzes. I'll have to take it apart and try to tame the buzzing.

Doc

Grimster74

Its reference from the AVR test tones at 75db. I used to have the Avia setup disk but seems its grown legs or I just lost it. Not really sure if I willing to purchase another $50 setup disk, the wife would kick my ****. The disk at Amazon you were telling me about, is it roughly the same thing, is it better than the Avia for $20. Let me know, might be able to get away with ordering that.

Dr. Spec

My 3803 is 4.5 dB lower than my Avia disc for the same Master Volume setting on the test tones.

Avia 85 dB Master Volume 00
3803 test tones 80.5 dB Master Volume 00

Now VE masters its test tones lower than the Avia or S&V Ovation stuff. But the playback level is identical because VE specifically requires 75 dB instread of 85 dB like Avia or S&V and its test tones are mastered 10 dB different than Avia and S&V.

But the 3803 test tones are not referenced to any standard per se, they just say 75 dB will get you near Reference Level. Well, clearly Denon is off a bit and that is fine if you are just interested in channel level balancing. You can pick any SPL you want to balance all the channels. But if you are referencing playback volume with respect to Reference Level, then you are really best off getting a true calibration disc with known mastering levels for the test tones.

The DVE disc for $20 is a DEAL and will do just as well as Avia, if not better. I ordered two, one for my co-worker. It should ship from Amazon with a day or two.

Doc

kberg

Originally posted by Dr. Spec
The DVE disc for $20 is a DEAL and will do just as well as Avia, if not better.

Hey Doc, are you saying that even if one (like me) has the S&V calibration disc that they would still benefit greatly from the purchase of the DVE disc? Just want to get an idea here because if not, I'll just apply the 20 bones to another movie instead.

Dr. Spec

Well S&V is better than Avia in some ways - it does 6.1 and has DTS. If you are just looking at audio, I wouldn't bother; buy the DVD. If you are looking at video, the calibration section on DVE looks really killer. I couldn't resist even though I have Avia.