Iphone tracks location

cokewithvanilla
cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
edited April 2011 in The Clubhouse
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mashable/20110420/tc_mashable/your_iphone_is_tracking_your_location_history

Apparently, it doesn't use the gps to do so... I wonder what the point of this is.
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  • On3s&Z3r0s
    On3s&Z3r0s Posts: 1,013
    edited April 2011
    So they can sell you stuff. If iTunes knows where you've been and knows that you are a huge Lady Gaga FameMonster they can advertise to you about tickets for her concert coming soon to an arena near you!!! I'm not sure if they do that yet, but basically it's a matter of time.

    Most smartphones are tracking your location continuously. HTML5 has much enhanced facilities for asking the user's browser where the device it's running on is located physically. Both Webkit (the browser core that Android phones use) and iOS Safari are happy to reply back when they are asked for this information from what I've seen. I haven't looked for a way to turn this off on my HTC... I'd imagine there is one, but not sure how easy it would be to find.
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  • ysss
    ysss Posts: 213
    edited April 2011
    The funny thing is, as far as they know, this information is not transmitted back to Apple (yet?) but it's kept on your machine.

    Btw, your mobile operator can get this same exact information (your location updates, via cell tower triangulation) without your consent or even you knowing that they're logging these coordinates at all.
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    I'm guessing the point of it is to see where the holes in service are, but who knows.
    If you will it, dude, it is no dream.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited April 2011
    Sad part is google does something close to this. So I would not put it past any of the providers or smart phones to do it.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2011
    funny thing is, if the Police are going to use the information, that means it would also double as a bitchin alibi if you pull "shenanigans" and leave the phone home

    just sayin
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2011
    Shenanigans.

    LOL
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  • Cpyder
    Cpyder Posts: 514
    edited April 2011
    As consumers, do we no longer have any say in what information can be collected on us? This type of information is absolutely private to our lives and yet we cannot control it at all. We should demand to be able to opt out of any and all types of data collection on ourselves.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited April 2011
    Cpyder wrote: »
    As consumers, do we no longer have any say in what information can be collected on us? This type of information is absolutely private to our lives and yet we cannot control it at all. We should demand to be able to opt out of any and all types of data collection on ourselves.

    Let me know how that works out for you.

    You use google right? They track all that you search and do so does facebook.
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  • mdaudioguy
    mdaudioguy Posts: 5,165
    edited April 2011
    bigaudiofanatic wrote: »
    Let me know how that works out for you.

    You use google right? They track all that you search and do so does facebook.

    What about Private Browsing? I know that both Firefox and IE support this, and probably other browsers, too. Websites can only collect info related to the current session, and can't correlate one session with another, without persistent cookies being saved. Of course, cookies can have their benefits, so it's a trade-off.
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/PrivateBrowsing
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  • RuSsMaN
    RuSsMaN Posts: 17,987
    edited April 2011
    If you don't want to be tracked or advertised to, loose the free facebook, google bloatware, and free apps, and jump of the grid. Buy a 'phone', nothing more.

    Cheers,
    Russ
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited April 2011
    Thats what I do Russ, just a phone.
    Will be interesting in the future when this info is used to convict someone of a crime. I'll bet ya though, you could not use the same info in your own defense.
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  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited April 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    If you don't want to be tracked or advertised to, loose the free facebook, google bloatware, and free apps, and jump of the grid. Buy a 'phone', nothing more.

    Cheers,
    Russ

    But then when you pull out a 'phone', nothing more, everybody else will say you're guilty automatically :biggrin:
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited April 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Shenanigans.

    LOL

    Super_20Troopers_20Shenanigans_2001.jpg


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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited April 2011
    tonyb wrote: »
    Will be interesting in the future when this info is used to convict someone of a crime.

    Oh it has. Believe me.
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    Vette C6.r wrote: »
    Oh it has. Believe me.

    it's got to b e a great alibi too.. I mean, think about it... just leave your phone somewhere... say you were at such and such place all day... they be like "yeah right, I don't believe that s@#t" ... you insist.. .they steal your phone, and you protest "you can't do that!" .... fat cop is thinking "I got you good now you *#*$$#" .... then they look at the phone and find you were where you said you were...
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited April 2011
    there not going to be actually looking through your phone. They will get subpoenas and search warrants to get the tower information.

    True you can leave your phone at home.

    Believe me, nobody does when they do illegal things.

    Bottom line, just do the right thing and keep your phone with you all the time. :)
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  • cokewithvanilla
    cokewithvanilla Posts: 1,777
    edited April 2011
    do the cell phone companies actually keep information like that? I'd imagine that they could, but there would really be no reason for it... it would just be a waste of space on their servers... imagine all the calls that go through each day, triangulating and saving everyone's location?

    Sounds like the same reason they can't generally get records of what sites you've visited from the provider... because, even though they can log that information, there would be too much, and it would serve no purpose for them to do so. maybe this is more true with websites than calls, but same concept.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited April 2011
    They just save tower information.

    You feed the information into software like Trips and Maps and it gives you the path the person was driving, walking, etc.
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  • bigaudiofanatic
    bigaudiofanatic Posts: 4,415
    edited April 2011
    cokewithvanilla wrote: »
    do the cell phone companies actually keep information like that? I'd imagine that they could, but there would really be no reason for it... it would just be a waste of space on their servers... imagine all the calls that go through each day, triangulating and saving everyone's location?

    Sounds like the same reason they can't generally get records of what sites you've visited from the provider... because, even though they can log that information, there would be too much, and it would serve no purpose for them to do so. maybe this is more true with websites than calls, but same concept.

    Yes and no, android phones send info to google not the phone companies however to my knowledge they keep your emails, texts, and phone calls made and received.
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  • Vette C6.r
    Vette C6.r Posts: 1,560
    edited April 2011
    Depends on the cell provider.

    Some texts can only be seen within the actual phone itself.
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  • ohskigod
    ohskigod Posts: 6,502
    edited April 2011
    RuSsMaN wrote: »
    Shenanigans.

    LOL



    EEEEEVIL shenanigans!!
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