Elvis, was he the best????

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  • kappclark
    kappclark Posts: 136
    edited April 2011
    For my mom, it was Perry Como (31 top 40 hits, BTW)
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,457
    edited April 2011
    No love for Sinatra here?:rolleyes::wink:
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    At the end of the day,, it could be Bing Crosby, on top of all his chart succes, he also won a oscar, he was charting records, before we were born,,, that is unless your Moses,
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  • kappclark
    kappclark Posts: 136
    edited April 2011
    A legend, and FAR above Elvis. Thank you for the reality check.

    Recently listened to a 1999 interview with Mitch Miller, and he said he thought there was only 2 types of music - good music and bad music ...

    I believe Frank is on the good side !

    FWIW, Whitburn says he (Frank Sinatra) is " regarded by many as the greatest popular singer of the 20th century"

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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    Frank was good, but he never got alot of hardware,, gold, platinum, awards,
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited April 2011
    Before Michael Jackson, Elvis was the king of pop. NOT rock and roll, even though everyone called him the king of rock and roll. He was an American Idol style pop singer who had really good endurance. I don't think he wrote any of his songs, only played a little guitar and not that well. He was an amazing singer and interpreter of songs. That's all, and I don't think that makes him the best anything. Just like MJ, he became a drug addicted parody of himself. Just like MJ, his over bloated ego gave him serious delusions of grandeur which displayed itself in very quirky behaviour. Just like MJ he died really young from excess. They both achieved huge greatness and had incredible talent but I don't think either was "the best" at anything, selling records aside, although Michael sure could dance.
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited April 2011
    thesurfer wrote: »
    After some research, i found presley to be the Best, in regards of million selling singles, Million selling albums, The best, acording to the RIAA, If the riaa, counted presleys million selling singles, along with his albums, he would easily overtake everyone in that regard, Why they dont count all certfied formats, is beyond me, Id put him in my top 5, with Led Zeppelin on top,

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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited April 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    Look! There goes nap. Yo, King!!! :biggrin:

    Mike,
    Just remember one thing. It was probably good to be The King, he never had to look far for pie. :cool:
  • Pycroft
    Pycroft Posts: 1,960
    edited April 2011
    I don't like lists, and rankings, but I would say that I don't particularly enjoy many of his songs. That being said, there is something very significant to being first, or revolutionary. It's like someone saying who is better - Bach or Beethoven - well, opinions differ, but they were both extremely significant to the music.

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  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2011
    James, shipping address please.
  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    For my money, ill go with Slim Whitman, followed close by Boxcar willie,
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    Fongolio wrote: »
    Before Michael Jackson, Elvis was the king of pop. NOT rock and roll, even though everyone called him the king of rock and roll. He was an American Idol style pop singer who had really good endurance. I don't think he wrote any of his songs, only played a little guitar and not that well. He was an amazing singer and interpreter of songs. That's all, and I don't think that makes him the best anything. Just like MJ, he became a drug addicted parody of himself. Just like MJ, his over bloated ego gave him serious delusions of grandeur which displayed itself in very quirky behaviour. Just like MJ he died really young from excess. They both achieved huge greatness and had incredible talent but I don't think either was "the best" at anything, selling records aside, although Michael sure could dance.
    The term, Rock&Roll was first used by allen freed, hope i got his name right,, At the time of elvis,, The term pop, music, aplied to Artist such as Frank sinatra, Bing Crosby, Dean Martin, Perry Como, as in popular music,, Rock, in itself consisted of heavy drums, electric guitar, good deal of bass guitar, Fast driving beats,, Songs such as Hard headed woman, Jailhouse Rock, Hound dog, were classic examples of early rock, Presley started his pop music phase, around 1960, I would consider his last real rock song to be Little Sister, from 62 or 63,
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  • decal
    decal Posts: 3,205
    edited April 2011
    Elvis, was he the best????


    In a word,no.
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    decal wrote: »
    Elvis, was he the best????


    In a word,no.
    It depends on what area,, the RIAA, say he was, as far as Awards, awards gathered in my OP, by cornering the market, and signing every type of music, If he sucked that bad,, you wouldnt know it by the record sales,, a bozo in his personal life for sure,, but no one can argue the fact, that he could sell records,,
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,833
    edited April 2011
    kappclark wrote: »
    For my mom, it was Perry Como (31 top 40 hits, BTW)

    Well hot diggety ! :wink::smile:
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2011
    Pycroft wrote: »
    That being said, there is something very significant to being first, or revolutionary.

    Elvis's greatness came from him breaking open the whole music scene back in the 50s. He wasn't the first one to do R&B or rock, but he was the first one to achieve long-term success with them....long enough to let the music to be accepted into mainstream society. Don't forget that back then, racial segregation still existed on the radio. When Sun Records' Sam Phillips signed Elvis to his first record contract, Phillips wanted "....a white man who had the Negro sound and the Negro feel...." Elvis' success also led to exposure to the general public for those black artists who Elvis covered ("Hound Dog" by "Big Mama" Thornton, Arthur Crudup's "That's All Right", etc.). Obviously, those who came after Elvis have sold more records, rocked harder, and done many things better. However, it was Elvis who path the way for the likes of the Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc.

    There're reasons why the man is in 3 music hall of fame....Rock 'n Roll, Country, and Gospel.

    Btw, Priscilla is more than just a pretty face....she's the reason why Elvis is doing so well, financially speaking, after his death. Not to mention still selling a lot records. Get this....Elvis has scored 4 #1 hits on the UK singles chart between 2000-2010.
  • scottyboy76
    scottyboy76 Posts: 2,905
    edited April 2011
    sales are misleading, gone with the wind put far, far more fannys in the seats than any other movie, also has caught the attention of the public for so many reasons.

    I have always liked elvis, for his showmanship, southern boy, and he never became intrigued by how a mans intestines might fell on littlle elvis, like so many british greats, rod stewart, jagger,bowie on and on and on.

    By the way have you guys ever heard of the race subset elvis was descended from, not kidding.

    along with ava gardner, abe lincoln,and quite a few other stars they were descended at least in part, from a eastern european group, called somthing like the mogongs mulogongs or something like that, sorry,its been a long time since i saw the tv show about it.

    just looked it up, they are called melungeon, a tri race mainly in appalachia, consisting of african, native and white americans.

    Listed are tom hanks heather locklear and steve martin.

    also some stuff on the site is about the lost tribe of israel and other beliefs.

    interesting, even if much is just legend or lore apparently the heritage is proven.
    they are generally characterized as having darker features thick black hair , large eyes and usually considered very attractive, sorta in an italian vein.

    Im not makin this stuff up, i will try to look it up later.
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    sales are misleading, gone with the wind put far, far more fannys in the seats than any other movie, also has caught the attention of the public for so many reasons.

    I have always liked elvis, for his showmanship, southern boy, and he never became intrigued by how a mans intestines might fell on littlle elvis, like so many british greats, rod stewart, jagger,bowie on and on and on.

    By the way have you guys ever heard of the race subset elvis was descended from, not kidding.

    along with ava gardner, abe lincoln,and quite a few other stars they were descended at least in part, from a eastern european group, called somthing like the mogongs mulogongs or something like that, sorry,its been a long time since i saw the tv show about it.

    just looked it up, they are called melungeon, a tri race mainly in appalachia, consisting of african, native and white americans.

    Listed are tom hanks heather locklear and steve martin.

    also some stuff on the site is about the lost tribe of israel and other beliefs.

    interesting, even if much is just legend or lore apparently the heritage is proven.
    they are generally characterized as having darker features thick black hair , large eyes and usually considered very attractive, sorta in an italian vein.

    Im not makin this stuff up, i will try to look it up later.
    Elvis had natural brown hair, he died it jet black, for the movies. and thought it made him look better, look it up,
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  • scottyboy76
    scottyboy76 Posts: 2,905
    edited April 2011
    His dad was a blond haired man.

    His ancestors, like everyones was mixed, look it up.

    Any other fascinating pointless contributions, the surfer
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  • dkg999
    dkg999 Posts: 5,647
    edited April 2011
    Elvis was a pretty good interpretive performer and I enjoy a lot of his music. He was however far ahead of his time in that his managers and handlers carefully controlled his performance, choice of songs, etc. in the same way a Britney Spears is managed today. I would call him the King of Performers because he raised and set the bar for delivering a music performance. King of Rock and Roll ............. I vote for Buddy Holly!
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  • Fongolio
    Fongolio Posts: 3,516
    edited April 2011
    And what about Jerry Lee Lewis? Now that guy was an all round rocker. And he still performs today. He went more rockabilly later in his career but while he was a rocker he was hot!!!
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited April 2011
    Keiko wrote: »
    I think The King did pretty well in the PIE department. Thing is, he could of had any flavor he desired. So you're right, it is good to be King. :biggrin:

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    I knew you would see it my way! :wink:
  • George Grand
    George Grand Posts: 12,258
    edited April 2011
    What's with all the pictures of Porky's girl Petunia?
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,833
    edited April 2011
    ....Porky's ........ girlfriend ........ Petunia ...........


    That's it. I demand Mr. G be put on the payroll immediately !!

    Plus who do I contact regarding underwear replacement ?
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  • thesurfer
    thesurfer Posts: 574
    edited April 2011
    His dad was a blond haired man.

    His ancestors, like everyones was mixed, look it up.

    Any other fascinating pointless contributions, the surfer
    You made it sound as if he had black hair thru ancesory, just made a point, one other thing, a bunch of crooks, broke into our local police station, stole all the crappers, they had nothing to go on, Pointless, but Fascinating,
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  • scottyboy76
    scottyboy76 Posts: 2,905
    edited April 2011
    pretty good, for a surfer
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  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,833
    edited April 2011
    Want to see one heck of a funny movie ?

    1962. Elvis. As Toby Kwimper (?). :smile:


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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited April 2011
    Want to see one heck of a funny movie ?

    1962. Elvis. As Toby Kwimper (?). :smile:


    follow that dream.jpg

    Sarcasm or for real ????
  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited April 2011
    I always think that despite what Elvis achieved, he could've been so much more if he wasn't controlled by Colonel Parker.
  • mrbigbluelight
    mrbigbluelight Posts: 9,833
    edited April 2011
    nap wrote: »
    Sarcasm or for real ????

    No, that's for real.

    On a 0 to 10 scale ...... 9.5. Funnnnnnnnier than heck. Even RonP would approve. :smile:
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