Opinions wanted on Philips speaker wire

WESTORTHE3RD
WESTORTHE3RD Posts: 8
edited April 2011 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
Hi:
I don't know a lot about the modern era of speaker wire.Switched out my delapatated wire for some 14 guage philips, mainly because it was good price. Went to the philips website to see what I could find out about their wire and discovered it is a copper aluminum clad design.Like I said at the beginning I'm kinda green about this new wire teck.Sounds ok, definately a big change from the crap I was using before.With the price of copper going where it has have most manufacturers gone to this copper aluminum clad?
Anybody else using or have used philips and care to share an opinion.What would other wire brands do that this philips isn't or can't?
thanks for your opionions and experiences in advance.
Mike:smile:
Oh yea I'm running 2 channel, driving rti10's with an 80's yamaha m50, going to change out to an m80.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    http://www.mitcablesexpress.com/exp-b-stock-sale.html


    Grab some of these. 100% copper is the best way to go
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  • jinjuku
    jinjuku Posts: 1,523
    edited April 2011
    If you need an affordable 100% copper cable try Monoprice.com.
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,322
    edited April 2011
    MIT is not for everybody John.

    I have to agree about Monoprice, They will cover just about any basic systems...
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited April 2011
    Agreed...depends on what you want to 'invest' at this point!

    But MITs are worth 'serious' consideration if the budget 'works'?

    cnh
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    MIT is not for everybody John.

    I have to agree about Monoprice, They will cover just about any basic systems...

    Agreed Larry, but for the budget, the MIT's I suggested are very tough to beat. 40 feet of Canare 4S11 set me back more than the MIT stuff did.
    The Gear... Carver "Statement" Mono-blocks, Mcintosh C2300 Arcam AVR20, Oppo UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player, Sony XBR70x850B 4k, Polk Audio Legend L800 with height modules, L400 Center Channel Polk audio AB800 "in-wall" surrounds. Marantz MM7025 stereo amp. Simaudio Moon 680d DSD

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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,322
    edited April 2011
    I know John but with the gear the OP has Monoprice would work just fine!!!
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,322
    edited April 2011
    There is one here in town at Intrinsic and you are right it is a beast.. They didn't have it running but it looked heavy!!!
    Polk Audio SDA 2.3tl Fully Hot Rodded. 😎

    SVS SB16 X2

    Cary SLP-05/Ultimate Upgrade.
    Cary SA-500.1 ES Amps
    Cary DMS 800PV Network
    OPPO UDP 205/ModWright Modification
    VPI Scout TT / Dynavector 20x2
    Jolida JD9 Fully Modified

    VPI MW-1 Cyclone RCM

    MIT Shotgun 3 cables throughout / Except TT, and PC’s
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,454
    edited April 2011
    The M80 is a great amp, and why I suggested the MIT's for it. Speakers can come and go, but that is one amp I would never part with.
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  • JayCee
    JayCee Posts: 1,500
    edited April 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The M80 is a great amp, and why I suggested the MIT's for it. Speakers can come and go, but that is one amp I would never part with.

    Agreed. I picked up an M-80 when I bought my 2As and thought it did a good job. I've also run it w/my 1Cs and 1.2tls with respectable sound. Since then, I've picked up Sunfire and Parasound amps. The Sunfire is at Rita's getting a refresh and I've pulled out the M-80 until it's back. Definitely a tank of an amp and descent for the used prices they go for. I'll keep it on my 3rd rig and as a spare if needed.

    I ordered the MITs and they'll be here tomorrow. The M-80 will help burn in the cables until I get my Sunfire back and while I rebuild the XOs on my 1Cs. For the price, swing the MITs if you can and look at it as an upgrade path if you decide to try other gear in the future...IMHO.
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  • WESTORTHE3RD
    WESTORTHE3RD Posts: 8
    edited April 2011
    Many thanks to everyone for responding.The m80 is a beast, at least weight wise, listing at 50 lb 10 oz.In regards to the idea of what speaker wire should be composed of for best performance, I looked into a publication caled the machinery's handbook for the specifics of electric conductivity of stand alone metalic elements...Silver gets top billing, scoring 100, copper is 2nd at 97.61gold comes in 3rd at 76.61;and aluminum is 4th at a piddley 63.Of course the 100 score doesn't mean perfect conductivity just that in a stand alone condition the silver tops.(the table didn't specify how much current was lost) I heard somewhere that the new era of experimental super conductors being developed are an alloy of aluminum and silver. so it is possible if philips did their homework that the copper/aluminum blend's conductivity is a step above that of straight copper. Of course how long the alloy holds perormance once the current hits it... burn in could equal burnt out...all just speculation.
    :biggrin:uneducated of course.

    Mike
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  • TECHNOKID
    TECHNOKID Posts: 4,298
    edited April 2011
    jinjuku wrote: »
    If you need an affordable 100% copper cable try Monoprice.com.
    TOOLFORLIFEFAN wrote: »
    MIT is not for everybody John.

    I have to agree about Monoprice, They will cover just about any basic systems...
    I own some of the phillipps cables and thy are fine howeve, they are comparable in quality with the monoprice qhich I also own and they are not as expensive so your better bang for the buck are the monoprice.
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited April 2011
    Just passing along that the Phillips cables are not standard AWG, they are Chinese graded. The Phillips 14 gauge chinese are comparable in size to AWG 18's. Which makes them much smaller.
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