Good Price on Banana Clips anyone??

Pauly
Pauly Posts: 4,519
edited September 2003 in Basic Hookup/Wiring Questions
So i want to hook up my speakers with the Monster Banana Clips on my setup. I need 22 of them to complete the task. I have only found them in packs of 2 @ 19.95. Thats 11 x 19.95 = 219.45 + Tax. The wife will never go for that especially since i just bougt a pair of rti28's. Anyone know of someone selling them in bulk @ a discount rate? Or maybe something just as effective just not as pricey? Any input would greatly be appreicated.

Rti70's Fronts
Csi30 Center
PSW404, PSW350 Stacked (Subs)
Rti28's Rear
Onkyo TXSR500
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2003
    I went through the same crap. Go to Radio Shack. They are less than $1 per pair. They even sell black and red ones. They also have the red double plugs that I like, just mark the ground side black with a sharpie. You need to use a Moster Cable Sharpie however, because the sound will be degraded and fuzzy.
  • wlrandall
    wlrandall Posts: 440
    edited August 2003
    Personally I think the Moster ones are lousy. I couldn't even get them to stay on their own wire!
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    Ahhhh. So with Monster you are just paying for the name? That is much much better. Did not think RS sold em. Thanks
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    So i just picked up the RS Banana Clips (Pic should be attached) from above link, and now they look a little confusing because the top part unscrews from the bottom part. ??? There is a hole on the bottom where the wire would (should) go but then why would it unscrew?? Is this for locking the wire in? Normally i can figure stuff like this out but dont wanna screw anything up.


    Class, Anyone?

    Spastic
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  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2003
    Those suckers were tricky, but you can't hurt them. The wire goes through the threaded nut and into the center hole and out the end hole a little bit. There is a little hole off center I think. When you tighten the nut it clamps on the wire that sticks out. I hope your banana plugs are the same design. I like the double plastic ones better because you use a screw driver to tighten the wire directly. Low resistance connection. The plastic ones look like **** however but they do the job. Radio Shack has many banana plug types I think.
  • Grimster74
    Grimster74 Posts: 2,576
    edited August 2003
    I have Monster Cable on everything except my banana clips. I found the acoustic research banana clips better because you actually have to screw them down with a screw driver to the speaker wire, a much better connection IMHO. Not only that they are 1/3 the cost. Heres a link to BB.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384702857&type=product&productCategoryId=cat08055
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  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    Damit! This has been a night mare between the Monster Angled crimps and auto locks and now these.. I just want a good connection. Thanks for the help. Hope RS is good about returns on open items.....:)

    As always Thanks,

    Spastic
    Life without music would
  • bikezappa
    bikezappa Posts: 2,463
    edited August 2003
    It is a sad day that you can't get simple banana plugs today. I couldn't believe the price they wanted for banana plugs at the Hi Fi stores. Way back when (1960's) everone sold them and used them on electronic test equipment. I finally ordered 50 heavey duty banana plugs from an electronic supply store through the company I worked at. They cost me $.50 each! It sounds like a conspiracy to me-can't go to the moon today, lost technology again.

    It is worth it to convert to the banana plugs however, saves much time when changing wires.

    PS Make sure you tighten down all the plastic nuts on the speakers, sub and amplifier when using the banana's. The nuts will rattle with load music. The nuts don't need to be tight to make a good electric connection with the banana plugs. I forgot about this and went nuts trying to locate the rattling noise.
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited August 2003
    Originally posted by Grimster74
    I have Monster Cable on everything except my banana clips. I found the acoustic research banana clips better because you actually have to screw them down with a screw driver to the speaker wire, a much better connection IMHO. Not only that they are 1/3 the cost. Heres a link to BB.

    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051384702857&type=product&productCategoryId=cat08055

    Have you had problems with the rubber on the AR's deteriorating? I had some Monster pins in the past that the rubber boots got all cracked and brittle, probably from the heat of the gear. I was considering the RS ones but if these are better and less expensive................:confused:
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    are there special ones for the back if the amp to bi-wire my rti70's since you cant fit 2 plugs in one hole?
    Life without music would
  • ken brydson
    ken brydson Posts: 8,772
    edited August 2003
    Originally posted by spasticpitbull
    are there special ones for the back if the amp to bi-wire my rti70's since you cant fit 2 plugs in one hole?

    You're supposed to be able to get both wires into one plug. Don't know for sure. I've never tried it as none of my speaks are bi- wireable.
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited August 2003
    THESE Monster locks work great!!! and easy to juse

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042873866&category=32838
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    I tried using the Monster Angled Crimps but there is limted room to fit 2 in one hole on the back of my onkyo....seems like i would run into the same prob with those about haveing limited room
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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited August 2003
    you use stackable banana's, and stack on each other.. or bare wire on the amp side as i do, no need to use connectors on the receiver side when you don't change wires everyday.. speaker side is nice when you move speakers or what ever..
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    So on the way home from work i decided to swing back by RS and look at other options so i can biwire other then just stright wire...i seen these on he shelf (see attached) and picked them up and it was the quickest clip i have tried yet and the width between the +/- fits right in the terms on the back of my amp.....oh and the RS banana clips (pic posted above) were a little tricky but were a good alt to spending 20 clams per 2 vs 5.99 per 2. Thanks guys.


    Spastic :D
    Life without music would
  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited August 2003
    stackable just like i said,
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • Pauly
    Pauly Posts: 4,519
    edited August 2003
    didnt know these were the stackable ones...i like pics :) Thanks though
    Life without music would
  • acdds
    acdds Posts: 253
    edited August 2003
    Make sure that they are wide enough to fit into both banana clip holes. I bought those same plugs and they were too narrow to plug into the back of my Denon 2803. I did not, however, try them in any of the polk speakers that I have. Radioshack didn't give me any problems returning them either.

    Edit: sorry I didn't read your entire post, glad they fit for you!
    Receiver = Denon AVR-3803
    DVD = Denon DV-2900
    Fronts = SDA SRS 2.3TL's
    (Carver m1.5t)
    Center = CSi40
    Side surrounds = Fxi30's
    Sony 12" sub
    TV = Hitachi 57F500

    Bedroom rig:
    Pioneer SX-1050 receiver
    Rti38's
  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited August 2003
    spb,
    I too went the RS dual banana route. Quick and clean swaps, yet very secure. But as warned aboce post spacing on equipment does have to accpet dual b's. Today this is the norm though.
    More later,
    Tour...
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2003
    i know we all love pics in here. here is what i did. I have my RT800i's biwired. monster Z2

    it came with those crazy pin connectors. that broke the very first day in tried to connect them. they are better suited for spring loaded clips instead of binding posts.

    so i had to change out the ends.. on a biwire of course you're looking a quite a few ends to change over. So i got monster master lock pins then put the monster banana plugs on the ends of those. so you're like paying twice just for the connectors. once for the monster lock, then for the banana plug. it's pure and simple highway robbery. ;)

    cost for two front RT800i's

    monster master pin locks. 4 (pkgs) x $19.99 = $80

    monster banana plugs. 4 (pkgs) x $12.99 = $52

    total = $132 + 8.2 % tax.

    crikey!
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  • Tour2ma
    Tour2ma Posts: 10,177
    edited August 2003
    Note the jumpers still in place, yet the speakers still stand.

    Still taming the sound, db, I take it...
    More later,
    Tour...
    Vox Copuli
    Better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. - Old English Proverb

    "Death doesn't come with a Uhaul." - Dennis Gardner

    "It's easy to get lost in price vs performance vs ego vs illusion." - doro
    "There is a certain entertainment value in ripping the occaisonal (sic) buttmunch..." - TroyD
  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,732
    edited August 2003
    Originally posted by faster100
    THESE Monster locks work great!!! and easy to juse

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3042873866&category=32838

    Some reason this isnt a good selling point for me....

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  • faster100
    faster100 Posts: 6,124
    edited August 2003
    thats a great price on locks regardless of the clueless sellers examples of use :D
    MY HT RIG:
    Sherwood p-965
    Sherwood sd871 dvd
    Rotel 1075 amp x5
    LSI15 mains
    LsiC center
    LSIfx surround backs
    Lsi7 side surrounds
    SVS pb12/plus2


    2 Channel Rig:

    nad 1020 Pre-amp
    Rotel 1080 stereo amp
    Polk sda 2B
    kenwood grunt Tuner
    realistic lab 450 TT
    Signal cable IC
  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited August 2003
    Originally posted by Tour2ma
    Note the jumpers still in place, yet the speakers still stand.

    Still taming the sound, db, I take it...

    yes indeed. i kept the jumpers in place. I tried a 14guage wire jumper.. but didn't notice any difference.. so I kept the jumpers that come with the speakers. To me they have a cleaner look to em.

    The extreme highs that i had, have been easier to listen to when i replaced the jumpers. After many months of tweaks.. i came to the conclusion that the brightness problem i was having is coming from the receiver. Not much I can do about it till i replace it either next year or the following year. this was after I played around with different, wires, interconnects, amps, settings, speaker placements.. etc. It's tuned now to a pretty desireable tone where your ears don't bleed anymore. :)

    Al
    PolkFest 2012, who's going>?
    Vancouver, Canada Sept 30th, 2012 - Madonna concert :cheesygrin:
  • TonyPTX
    TonyPTX Posts: 545
    edited August 2003
    Originally posted by spasticpitbull
    So i just picked up the RS Banana Clips (Pic should be attached) from above link, and now they look a little confusing because the top part unscrews from the bottom part. ??? There is a hole on the bottom where the wire would (should) go but then why would it unscrew?? Is this for locking the wire in? Normally i can figure stuff like this out but dont wanna screw anything up.


    Class, Anyone?

    Spastic

    Strip about 3/8" of insulation off the wire, then feed the wire through the bottom piece. Fold the un-insulated portion of the wire backwards (like you were flaring it out) over the outside side of the lower piece. Be sure not to go past the threads. Screw the top w/ the banana end down. Solid firm connection! I have them for my rig and have had plenty of good sucess.
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  • robodell
    robodell Posts: 27
    edited September 2003
    I have the "paired" banana plugs. I picked up some Rockford Fosgate ones in the car audio section. They are built very solidly - much better than the other stuff I found. They were $6 a pair.

    The Radio Shack ones look pretty well built too. Great pics!