Questions on RTi A9's

bobt
bobt Posts: 280
edited April 2011 in Speakers
I'm looking at these to replace my well worn SDA1c's which will be moved up stairs, to a more civilized listening area....basically were i'm not trying to make toast out them with insane volume...LOL

I have read the 9's need GOOD quality power and the more the better to make them sound there best. Basically, not so good power= not so good sound.

I don't think i should have a problem with that. I'm running an old Onkyo M-504 dual mono block hi current amp, at 8 ohms puts out an easy 165 watts per channel.

This is a strict 2 channel system, played at very high volumes (concert level)
Now i don't expect the 9's to sound like the SDA's, not sure any speaker could sound like those. But i do expect a big soundstage, good bass, treble response..etc: They basically have to sound "AS" good as the SDA's

They will be sitting in a room about 13x28 with a dropped ceiling about 7/12 feet high. They pretty much need to fill that room with sound...GOOD sound.

How far off the back wall do these need to be for the best sound?

From what i've read, these speakers do LOUD, well. The only bad things i've read is the mid's get muddy, if pushed to hard, or the tweeter...just can't keep up and loses somthing. Now that could be because of the power there using.

If need be i can always pick up a used Adcom or Hafler, to Bi-amp the speakers. Never needed that with the SDA's, but these are different speakers.

Any info about any of this would be wonderful. Thanks
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  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited April 2011
    I'd look at the LSI's if it's a 2 channel system or another company. Also 165 watts isn't alot if you want concert levels.
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited April 2011
    Somehow i had a feeling someone was going to say that. I was looking at the LSi 15 also.
    So basically your saying the LSI is better for a strict 2 channel system? As i said , i can always pick up another power amp, to Bi amp the speakers.
    The only other speaker i was looking at was the Axiom M80, which is pretty close to the 9's. Not sure why either of these speakers would not work well in a striat 2 channel system, but then again i have not looked at speakers for this in 20 years..so may be way out of touch.
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited April 2011
    OK..guess i'm at a complete loss here. Are all these new speakers built to do HT. Basically they don't do 2 channel stereo well, without a sub or something? Do i need to go back to old school thinking, like if it dosen't have at least 1 12" driver..not going to work??? There just not built to do 2 channel stereo well any more...at least in the case of the 9's????
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,231
    edited April 2011
    It's frustrating not to get the answers you want, isn't it. Well, you reap what you sew.

    You should have thought about that in the past, Bob. Enjoy your spearker cables. :wink:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited April 2011
    LMAO...you guys really need to find a life or grow up. My comments about speaker cables were just that..my OPINON...nothing more or less...if you can't deal with some other opinon..your pretty sad.
    My feeling about Polk was they never made a better speaker then the SDA. Which seems to hold true as the only other poster said to look elsewere.
    Thanks for the NO info, i'll go with the Axioms...
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,231
    edited April 2011
    Good bye.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,340
    edited April 2011
    Lmfao!!!!
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,776
    edited April 2011
    Talk about being lost.
    Political Correctness'.........defined

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  • VR3
    VR3 Posts: 28,793
    edited April 2011
    Axiom over LSi?

    Really? Thats kind of like saying Modern day KLH over Wilson Audio.
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  • bobt
    bobt Posts: 280
    edited April 2011
    You people just floor me. The post was about the 9's NOT the LSi.
    How in the hell do you even have time to listen to anything with 22 thousand posts on this site.
  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited April 2011
    hmm bob was told in 2009 maybe to look into the LSI 15's by John.

    I also like how bob thinks all the wire is the same yet says in the same post
    "The probable cause....maybe cheap wireing for the voice coil..but thats a guess.....
    What Polk finds.....don't know."

    Bob why don't you just get a couple of coat hangers, some cheap best buy speakers. Everything sounds the same right?

    I love when people complain about not getting help, yet cause a lot of their own trouble.
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,231
    edited April 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    Talk about being lost.
    Like a fish out of water? Never mind. Don't answer that.

    As if you would anyway...:rolleyes:
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • FTGV
    FTGV Posts: 3,649
    edited April 2011
    bobt wrote: »
    ... go with the Axioms...
    I've been to their little factory in the woods.Interesting local for such an operation.
  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,019
    edited April 2011
    I hear....banjos, what gives ??
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  • Geoff4rfc
    Geoff4rfc Posts: 2,480
    edited April 2011
    At first I thought this was a fresh fish feeding in a piranha tank (and indeed it is). As I started reading the thread, I thought the OP was a little time wasting with his opening statement, then I saw the harshness settle in and thought, wow, I might have to come to this guys rescue, then felt that maybe I was missing something, so I did a little thread search and behold, this is what I found..........-.........-....... and even more.....

    Bobt, I don't have as many posts as these guys so if I may, step away from the keyboard for awhile, take a short vacation and reassess your motives for being involved with HT and Stereo.

    As with any forum, everyone has an opinion. And with the content of every forum, there are facts about the subject content. Having done proper research so one has product knowledge is a must if one tries to instruct another, otherwise, it's just empty.........information.

    And just an observation or two, when trying to convey info coming from a valuable source, spelling does have it's credentials as minimal as it may seem. If a guy is trying to give me thousands of dollars worth of info, if he misspells a lot, I personally am going to dismiss what I see. And the guys with thousands of posts, have been here a long time, seniority does have it's worth. I've been able to grow in my knowledge from the experience of others that have been there before me. Of course it doesn't mean that these guys are the smartest dudes in the world (maybe some are), but it does mean they have experience, and that can be very important.

    Have a peaceful vacation and we'll see you back with a new and loving attitude :smile:
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  • nhhiep
    nhhiep Posts: 877
    edited April 2011
    if you're into music only. RTi series is the worse you can do. In fact RT stands for Reference Theater, according to Polk. Try LSi or other brands.

    I've RTi 8s for over a yr now, but when I play music I switch to Infinity Overture 1. Lucky my Sony ES AVR has an easy A/B switch.