The 4-Hour Body - Questions

fatchowmein

Newrival mentioned the book here and I forgot about it until I ran across a video from Dr. Oz interviewing the author (I hated his, "The Four Hour Workweek").

Book is here.
Videos are here.
Transcripts of the videos are here (for those who can't view them at work).

Question:
Anybody try the 30 grams of protein in the morning? Results? Feedback from Newrival or anyone else who has tried it would be appreciated.


No, I don't normally watch Dr. Oz, I've seen part of one episode on TV but wasn't interested, so I don't if he's credible. I was impress by his attempts to simplify topics down to layman terms on some of the videos on his website.

Thx

ysss

I've been on this for about a month now, so far so good.
Some of the procedures that I follow from 4hb:

- slow carb diet (about 90% compliance)
- thermal treatment (70% compliance)
- pagg stack (using PGG for 2 weeks)
- using some of the damage control protocols on binge days

Result so far:

waist reduction: 4"
weight reduction: 14lbs

cnh

Don't know anything about this. Guess I'll have to check it out. But losing weight is 'pretty' simple. Eat less, stay active. It worked for me in China last year. 35lbs lost in less than a year, doing what? Eat a Chinese diet (not American Chinese restaurant fare but real Chinese). Less protein than the American diet, less fat, almost no sugar, reasonable amount of roughage and lots of white rice? That's right--weight loss eating what most people think is something that will instantly pack pounds on. Actually, I didn't eat that much rice, only 'normal' portions or until sated.

I've been back in the U.S. now for over half a year. And, of course, I'm up 5 pounds--all of it recent, and all of it due to sugar and fat. One thing you don't have to worry about living Chinese style is 'desserts'. And that is an important KEY. Keeping sugar intake low seems to be some kind of 'safety' valve. It quelled any 'cravings' I might have had.

I notice, back here; nibble on something sugary and all of a sudden you're ready for a binging session. lol

Trying to nip this one in the bud. Going back to Yogurt ONLY for late night desserts.

cnh

Airplay355

Are you kidding me? What a quack. The secret to weight loss is to stop eating such high calorie crap. Less in than out and you WILL lose weight. Why do you think weight watchers works so well? If your body needs 1500 calories a day to survive and you only eat 1000, that extra 500 has to come from somewhere and it comes from your fat stores.

This is just more crap to sell books/videos/whatever. Fad diets are nothing but unhealthy.

rdb2001

Weight loss is like someones rig to me. Crap in equals crap out. Food is your source and your body is the final presentation. Maybe thats a bad analogy but its close. People who do diet crack me up. Eating healthy is not a diet, its a way a life. You will gain the losses right back when you stop dieting. Like airplay said, its all about calories. Cut out the high calaorie foods. Exercise and stay active and watch the weight come off. And another key, Eat eat and eat. Weight loss is about metabolism. To keep your metabolism high, you have to keep it going by eating small things every couple of hrs. Your body will burn fat quicker when you have a high metabolism, thats why breakfast is the most important meal of the day. It gets that metabolism going and eating through out the day(good things), will keep it going. Its not chess, its checkers.

fatchowmein

ysss wrote: »

I've been on this for about a month now, so far so good.
Some of the procedures that I follow from 4hb:

- slow carb diet (about 90% compliance)
- thermal treatment (70% compliance)
- pagg stack (using PGG for 2 weeks)
- using some of the damage control protocols on binge days

Result so far:

waist reduction: 4"
weight reduction: 14lbs

Thanks for the feedback. If possible and you're willing, please keep us updated on your progress. Feel free to send me a PM if you'd rather do it privately. The thermal treatment gives me goosebumps just thinking about it! :eek:

rdb2001 wrote: »

Your body will burn fat quicker when you have a high metabolism, thats why breakfast is the most important meal of the day. It gets that metabolism going and eating through out the day(good things), will keep it going. Its not chess, its checkers.

Right, and there's even a strategy when it comes to checkers.

If you are eating breakfast already, is there really an improvement in eating 30 grams of protein 30 minutes after waking up as the book suggests? Sure, I can try it and see because it's a simple behavioral shift but I wanted to find out if anybody else has tried it.

ysss

@fatchowmein:

Sure, no problem.

I'm not doing the full ice bath thing, just cold showers and ice compress. To be honest I'm really skeptical of the compress, but it coincides with my current habit anyway (being an inert couch potato in front of the tv for an hour or so after dinner) so I'm trying that out.

Btw I am generally skeptical to 80% of the weird methods mentioned in his book, except for the (s)low carb diet. Many of them don't seem well researched, though they make nice anecdotes. The logic are sound (ie: if you subject your body to low temperature environments, then it will have to burn more calories to maintain your normal temp, etc), but the methods and dosage prescribed sound too good to be true to me.

Now, the slow-carb diet, that seems to work for me (so far). As he said, in the end it's all about compliance. You can have the best weight loss plan designed for you (low carb, low fat, high fiber diet with plenty of exercise) but if you can't wrap your lifestyle around it then it will all just look good on paper. In slow-carb diet I just substitute my regular carb (potato, bread, rice) with beans and lentils and I increase my intake of veggies (spinach mostly) and protein (grilled chicken, fish and steaks; yummm). I get one day off a week to get some sugar high and get my fills of 'normal' carbs and junk foods *g*

Btw, you need to drink A LOT to guard your kidney with this diet. Same with atkins, ckd, southbeach and other low-carb diets.

And you know what... surprisingly it has also improved my cholesterol levels.. at first I was expecting raised cholesterols due to the amount of proteins I've been taking, but my LDL cholesterol has gone down by about 25% and my triglyceride level is down 35% (!). I'm still keeping a close eyes on these numbers with monthly blood test.

Although I personally think that Tim Ferriss is a walking billboard and a loud self-promoting geek (:D) and that many of the protocols listed in his book sound like shams, I'm thankful that he's introduced me to a low-carb diet with a very easy rules to follow. I've been reading more about the science behind his methods and I've found several other options to try if I need to switch for whatever reason.

dragon1952

fatchowmein wrote: »

Book is here.

Thx

The review on Amazon by the physician is hilarious