Just received an dvd/a & sacd player and have no sacds

polkfarmboy
polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
edited April 2011 in Electronics
Well I finally have an sacd player and now I probably should start buying some sacd's , dvda's and analog ic's

Does any of you guys have a particular sacd you would recommend that really shows of the format ?

Where is a good place you buy sacds or dvd audio ?

I am more of a techno music guy but I know there's probably none of these so I am clueless . I would like some hard rock titles and some female vocalists for the wifey
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Well I finally have an sacd player and now I probably should start buying some sacd's , dvda's and analog ic's

    Does any of you guys have a particular sacd you would recommend that really shows of the format ?

    Where is a good place you buy sacds or dvd audio ?

    I am more of a techno music guy but I know there's probably none of these so I am clueless . I would like some hard rock titles and some female vocalists for the wifey

    Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
    Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
    Doobie Brothers - Captain and Me
    The Who - Who's Next
    Steely Dan - Aja

    Just to start the list off...:biggrin:

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2011
    Crappy pic but gota play by the rules with posting one

    Its the pioneer at the top

    Thanks Eric and never heard a stealy dan cd but it did get a mention in the A team movie . Pink floyd is awesome, is this the only sacd/dvd audio cd they have available ?
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  • steveinaz
    steveinaz Posts: 19,538
    edited March 2011
    Never heard any Steely Dan? Man, get on it, you're missing some of the best music out there...
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2011
    congrats on your player...

    i'm more into DVD-audio than SACD.. but there are many more titles on SACD than DVD-A. with that said... i just rediscovered B.B. King and Eric Clapton's - Riding With the King on DVD-A. crank it and just kick back and let those two legends do what they do best.. and it's all on this disc.

    2 other DVD-A disc every listener should have in their collection of hi rez music are... 80's groups...

    The Fixx - 1011 Woodland - it's extended live studio versions of all their songs from the 80's.

    Inside the Music - New Wave - 80's music.. people like Blondie, Billy Idol, The Tubes, Wall of VooDoo, Missing Person's, The Knack, THe Motels.. etc.

    People really like the Eagles - Hotel California. I just sold mine on epay for over $100 :eek: :biggrin:

    check this list out of SACD's http://www.musicdirect.com/category/2
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2011
    what model Pioneer Elite is your player?
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  • cstmar01
    cstmar01 Posts: 4,424
    edited March 2011
    Looks to be a DV-47A or DV-47AI

    good players I had one for awhile.

    There is a DVD-A by The Cyrstal Method I forgot the name of it. You just have to do some looking.

    Amazon has some stuff, Music Direct, etc all will have some SACD's. There are other sites as well.
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2011
    Yep cstmar01 its the Elite DV-47Ai

    I noticed it has the i link connection same as my elite receiver so I may have to figure out what thats for
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  • Stevenmbell
    Stevenmbell Posts: 60
    edited March 2011
    Doors boxset DVD-A
    Dire Straits Dire Straits SACD Import Blows Brothers in arms away!
    TalkingHeads Remain in Light DVD-A British Import
    Carol King Tapestry SACD
    ELP Brain Salad Surgery SACD
    Herbie Hancock HeadHunters SACD
    David Bowie Ziggy Stardust SACD
    I have over 300 SACD/DVD-A's and will never part with them.
    But I also still love Vinyl! Try those out for a start.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,728
    edited March 2011
    Brother In Arms is my favorite SACD, along with DSOTM, hard to choose between those two.
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  • PrazVT
    PrazVT Posts: 1,607
    edited March 2011
    Yes that is a toughy - but I never get tired of Brothers in Arms!
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  • Glowrdr
    Glowrdr Posts: 1,103
    edited March 2011
    I've heard the Crystal Method one is awesome. I've only got a few DVD-A's (My previous Acura had a DVD-A player stock in it)

    The best one that I own hands down is Linkin Park's Reanimation. It has the best "true" 5.1 sound that surrounds you. I've listened to some NIN, and Disturbed in this format and I found it to be rather blah.
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2011
    BareNaked Ladies - Maroon on DVD-A is blah.... nothing special at all...
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  • gfong
    gfong Posts: 1,079
    edited March 2011
    Here are a few SACD's that are available on Amazon. Price range is $14 to $56. Most hover around the $20.00 mark. ebay and Amazon are good places to find SACD's.

    Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
    The Wallflowers - Red Letter Days
    David Bowie - Scary Monsters/Ziggy Stardust
    The Who - Tommy
    Eric Clapton - Slowhand/461 Ocean Boulevard
    Allman Brothers Band - Live at the Fillmore East/Eat a Peach
    The Pretenders - Pretenders 2
    Heart - Alive in Seattle
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,473
    edited March 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Brother In Arms is my favorite SACD, along with DSOTM, hard to choose between those two.
    Two great suggestions. If you can't hear what SACD has to offer with either of these? You don't need SACD's.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited March 2011
    Nice player-Congrats!
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  • jayman_1975
    jayman_1975 Posts: 672
    edited March 2011
    Blue Man Group DVD-A is amazing. If i was going to show off DVD-A to my friends this would be the one i would use.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,031
    edited March 2011
    http://www.sa-cd.net/home
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited March 2011
    No mention of the Moody Blues. Soooo......The Moody Blues. :cool:
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  • VXR8
    VXR8 Posts: 291
    edited March 2011
    Other than Dire Straits and Pink Floyd, ANYTHING Depeche Mode have released - I have them all - in my eyes, they are the ultimate example for the SACD format.
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    What's the name of the company that sends,CD'S and Sacd's out once a month for a small membership fee... darn,I forgot the name..thanks
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 33,077
    edited March 2011
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Yep cstmar01 its the Elite DV-47Ai

    I noticed it has the i link connection same as my elite receiver so I may have to figure out what thats for

    The I-link is actualy the preferred way for sacd. It's a one wire solution to set it up and control, but you can just use analog cables. Hooking it up by optical cable will not get you the benefits of sacd.
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  • unc2701
    unc2701 Posts: 3,587
    edited March 2011
    Two things:
    1)Before investing in a SACD of something you already own, check out: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/ The higher resolution of SACD isn't worth it, if some jackass turned up the dynamic compression when remastering.

    2)If there's a DVD-A and a SACD version of the same recording, you probably want the DVD-A; PCM is far easier for studios to work with, so the SACD will just be a conversion of the PCM version. You're better off closer to the source.
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,560
    edited March 2011
    I believe you're thinking of yourmusic.com, which is the online version of BMG. They used to have a pretty good selection of SACD's but the number is dwindling.

    -Dave
    PolkClyde wrote: »
    What's the name of the company that sends,CD'S and Sacd's out once a month for a small membership fee... darn,I forgot the name..thanks
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  • polkfarmboy
    polkfarmboy Posts: 5,703
    edited March 2011
    The 45 sounds quite good on regular cd's but nothing special compared to my marantz 4001. The 45 has faster bass making it less boomy

    I have been looking at that sacd.net site and love the way it can take you straight to amazon where you can buy it and listen to samples . It sure does make shopping easy by saving alot of time


    Thats some good news about that denon link as it will save a fortune on ic's that I was pricing out

    There are so many multi ch sacds and I only have 2 polks rti8 and 3 martin logan so I may have to go buy another 2 martin logans if I want to experience the multi ch side of sacd although I mainly just want to enjoy some 2ch on the tube integrated

    Does any one here think the mutli ch sounds better than the 2 ch?

    Can the multi ch sacd's still be played in 2 ch or does it sound weird ?
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  • DaveHo
    DaveHo Posts: 3,560
    edited March 2011
    Most if not all multi-channel SACD's also have a 2 channel layer. For me, the whole attraction of SACD & DVD-A is the multi-channel aspect. Unless the redbook CD sounds really bad, I don't see much point in buying 2 channel SACDs. Sure they usually sound better than redbook, but not enough to justify the price in many cases.

    -Dave
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  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    The 45 sounds quite good on regular cd's but nothing special compared to my marantz 4001. The 45 has faster bass making it less boomy

    I have been looking at that sacd.net site and love the way it can take you straight to amazon where you can buy it and listen to samples . It sure does make shopping easy by saving alot of time


    Thats some good news about that denon link as it will save a fortune on ic's that I was pricing out

    There are so many multi ch sacds and I only have 2 polks rti8 and 3 martin logan so I may have to go buy another 2 martin logans if I want to experience the multi ch side of sacd although I mainly just want to enjoy some 2ch on the tube integrated

    Does any one here think the mutli ch sounds better than the 2 ch?

    Can the multi ch sacd's still be played in 2 ch or does it sound weird ?


    The SACD 'spec' is said to require a 2-channel mix in the DSD layer if it also has a multi-channel mix.

    A Hybrid SACD will have another layer for CD/redbook playback - but not all SACDs are hybrid and so, can ONLY be played back on a SACD player to decode the DSD layer.

    Having said that, there are some SACDs that only have a multi-channel mix:
    http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/276/276/y

    I have about..oh....40-50 SACDs now - mostly jazz, some rock. Some are 2-channel only, some are multi-channel and I find that I'm mostly a boring plain old 2-channel type of guy. :tongue:

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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,031
    edited March 2011
    Does any one here think the mutli ch sounds better than the 2 ch?

    Not me.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited March 2011
    Erik Tracy wrote: »
    The SACD 'spec' is said to require a 2-channel mix in the DSD layer if it also has a multi-channel mix.

    It's the other way around....2 channel DSD mix is required on a SACD. The CD layer (which makes the disc a hybrid SACD) and the multi-channel DSD mix are entirely optional. As mentioned before, there're some SACD that only contain a multi-channel DSD mix (and perhaps a CD layer), but I'd imagine less than 1% of all SACDs are like that.

    Like to point out that the 2 channel DSD mix and the multi-channel DSD mix (if available) are on one layer of a SACD. The 2 DSD mixes are physically located in different areas of the disc. In other words, if you have a multi-channel SACD and you select to listen to it in 2 channel stereo, you are not hearing just the FL/FR of a multi-channel mix.

    sacd_discs.jpg

    Edit: Also want to mentioned that the CD layer of a hybrid SACD can also be encoded in HDCD. If the CD layer is one of those "Enhanced CDs", there may be video that can be viewed on a computer.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,473
    edited March 2011
    polkfarmboy wrote: »
    Does any one here think the mutli ch sounds better than the 2 ch?
    Not me.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • danger boy
    danger boy Posts: 15,722
    edited March 2011
    i like multi-channel music... in well.. multi-channel... 5.1 sounds so much more lively to me than 2 ch hi rez audio.. not that the 2ch is horrible.. anything but. when you hear a well mixed multi-channel disc.. it rocks your world.
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