A/V for new monitor 70s
I have a new pair of Monitor 70s, also a CS1 Ctr, Infinity ceiling rears (specs unknown), and will replace my sub with a PSW-110. I listen to both music and HT. I have a fairly small space and wouldn't be cranking it much, but I'm still concerned that my current Yamaha HTR-5560 A/V Rec is underpowered. A/V specs:
MAIN, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
CENTER, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
REAR, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
Is the above receiver under powered for the monitor 70s? If so, what might be a few good A/V Receiver choices? It seems like every new receiver with 100+W is in the $600+ range. I'd prefer to keep it under $500 if possible but not at the risk of jeopardizing the 70s tweeters or poor sound quality, even at low to medium volume. I was considering a Pioneer VSX-1020-K (7.1, 80w Per Channel 20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm, 110w @1kHz/8ohm) but it doesn?t appear to have much more power than the current yamaha.
I do have another receiver that I could use, it?s a HK AVR-247 with 7X50W. I understand that the HK is more efficient with its cleaner power, but still seems light for the 70s. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
MAIN, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
CENTER, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
REAR, 20Hz-20kHz, 0.06% THD, 8Ω 75W + 75W
Is the above receiver under powered for the monitor 70s? If so, what might be a few good A/V Receiver choices? It seems like every new receiver with 100+W is in the $600+ range. I'd prefer to keep it under $500 if possible but not at the risk of jeopardizing the 70s tweeters or poor sound quality, even at low to medium volume. I was considering a Pioneer VSX-1020-K (7.1, 80w Per Channel 20Hz-20kHz,.08%THD@8ohm, 110w @1kHz/8ohm) but it doesn?t appear to have much more power than the current yamaha.
I do have another receiver that I could use, it?s a HK AVR-247 with 7X50W. I understand that the HK is more efficient with its cleaner power, but still seems light for the 70s. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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It depends on how you like to listen to your music. More power will get you more volume. It will get you more dynamic range as well. But its really a listening thing. The 70s can certainly handle more. But do you need more?
You can also add an external amp, but typically receivers that can handle an external amp already have a pretty strong internal amp.
Also, from what I have read, the 110 is not the sub to get. Step up to at least the 225 or pick a different brand. No personal experience, this is just the word on the street. Sometimes people can be a bit extreme so it may not be true. Just read up.Music
LR: Polk Monitor 70 (willing to sell if interested)
C: Cerwin Vega E-75C
Sub: HSU VTF-2 MK3
AVR: Sony STR-DE835
AMP:
HT
5.1: Paradigm CT110
AVR: Integra DTR-4.6
WTB: RTiA9 or RTi12 -
okay, thanks. I do need to do more reading and may just try the exisiting 75W receiver on the 70s.
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Before I upgraded to the LSI series ( bought a EMOTIVA XPA5 to drive them) I had my monitor 70,s as my left and right, driven by a SONY ES 5300, loads of power, you can find them used. worthy of your consideration, still using it as a pre/pro, its terrific.Emotiva XPA5, Sony ES 5300,: Lsi 15,s LSIC, Monitor 70,s, ( side surrounds) FXI 3,s, (rear surrounds)Micropro4000, Velodyne DEQ 10, Sony 55inchXBR 930D Sony BDP 790 Bedroom rig SonyES 3200 RTIA1,s CSIA4 FXI3,s polk PSW 10 SONY 34inch XBR960:cool:SONY BDP550
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With 120WPC it's good to hear it was enough power. Did you bi-amp them? Is bi-amping safe as long as it doesn't exceed the speaker maximum capacity?
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No I did not bi-amp them. There are a lot of threads on why Bi- amping with an AVR is of no benefit.Dont worry about to much power, its to little power that does the damage.Emotiva XPA5, Sony ES 5300,: Lsi 15,s LSIC, Monitor 70,s, ( side surrounds) FXI 3,s, (rear surrounds)Micropro4000, Velodyne DEQ 10, Sony 55inchXBR 930D Sony BDP 790 Bedroom rig SonyES 3200 RTIA1,s CSIA4 FXI3,s polk PSW 10 SONY 34inch XBR960:cool:SONY BDP550
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No I did not bi-amp them. There are a lot of threads on why Bi- amping with an AVR is of no benefit.Dont worry about to much power, its to little power that does the damage.
Saying its "too little" power that does the damage is a gross oversimplification. Speakers are still damaged by too much power. You definitely need to worry about too much power.
A more fair oversimplification would be to say "distortion" damages speakers.Music
LR: Polk Monitor 70 (willing to sell if interested)
C: Cerwin Vega E-75C
Sub: HSU VTF-2 MK3
AVR: Sony STR-DE835
AMP:
HT
5.1: Paradigm CT110
AVR: Integra DTR-4.6
WTB: RTiA9 or RTi12 -
I stand correctedEmotiva XPA5, Sony ES 5300,: Lsi 15,s LSIC, Monitor 70,s, ( side surrounds) FXI 3,s, (rear surrounds)Micropro4000, Velodyne DEQ 10, Sony 55inchXBR 930D Sony BDP 790 Bedroom rig SonyES 3200 RTIA1,s CSIA4 FXI3,s polk PSW 10 SONY 34inch XBR960:cool:SONY BDP550
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I stand corrected
Be corrected not......check this out.......
http://www.clubknowledge.com/Car_Audio_FAQ/archives/1081.html
Pay close attention to what is said about having more power than not enough.Source: BRP Panasonic UB9000, CDP Emotiva ERC3 - Display: LG OLED EVO 83 C3 - Pre/Pro: Marantz 8802A - Amplification: Emotiva XPA-DR3, XPA-2 x 2, XPA-6, Speakers, Mains/2ch-Focal Kanta No2's, C-LSiM706, S-702F/X, RS-RTiA9's, WS-RTiA9's, FH-RTiA3's, Subs - Epik Empire x 2
Cables: AudioQuest McKenzie XLR's/CDP/Amp, Carbon 48/BRP, Forest 48/Display, 2 channel speaker cable: Furutech FS Alpha 36 12AWG PCOCC Single Crystal (Douglas Connection)
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I stand un-corrected!Emotiva XPA5, Sony ES 5300,: Lsi 15,s LSIC, Monitor 70,s, ( side surrounds) FXI 3,s, (rear surrounds)Micropro4000, Velodyne DEQ 10, Sony 55inchXBR 930D Sony BDP 790 Bedroom rig SonyES 3200 RTIA1,s CSIA4 FXI3,s polk PSW 10 SONY 34inch XBR960:cool:SONY BDP550
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OP,
I see no reason why you cannot try new speakers with the receivers that you already have, Yamaha or HK. I would personally lean towards the Harman Kardon based on my experience with their stereo gear. You don't "need" +100W of power to run speakers like Monitor 70 unless you like it very loud or have large space.
Easy on the volume knob, and if you want louder or hear distortion upgrade then.
