it just Arrived,The Oppo 95

PolkClyde
PolkClyde Posts: 662
edited March 2011 in 2 Channel Audio
This thing has, a little weight to it,not really heavy,as some claim.hope, I'm not disappointed.I know they are not disappointed(Oppo). I mainly,got this for 2 Channel Audio.I'm not much into Videos,yet.I'm getting there,though. do anybody know much about this DVD Player? thanks.
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  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited March 2011
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2011
    So what's the story? Is it a better build quality than the Oppo BD83? Is the tray a flimsy thing as a the BD83? How does it sound? Can it play Bluray music out the two channel? Does it seem worth $1000 for a two channel player?
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
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    PolkAudioClyde
  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    So what's the story? Is it a better build quality than the Oppo BD83? Is the tray a flimsy thing as a the BD83? How does it sound? Can it play Bluray music out the two channel? Does it seem worth $1000 for a two channel player?

    I'm hooking it up now,I'll let you know, later.I remember,paying the same amount for a HI-FI VCR,when it came out years ago.By next year this time,the price be will much less, than what I paid for it.I got 30 days to return it,if not satisfied.
    PolkAudioClyde
  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited March 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    So what's the story? Is it a better build quality than the Oppo BD83? Is the tray a flimsy thing as a the BD83? How does it sound? Can it play Bluray music out the two channel? Does it seem worth $1000 for a two channel player?

    It's a d@mn good player, I've been using it since early February via the Oppo Early-Release program. I actually connect it directly to the amp via balanced XLR cables for my 2-channel setup; I can configure my speaker level via its Audio processing menu. Playing Bluray music out of the 2-channel? You bet it can. And yes, the tray is still flimsy. I've gone through all four: BDP-83, BDP-83SE, BDP-93, and BDP-95. Even though I liked the additional 2-channel balanced output, I would say it's not worth upgrading from the BDP-83SE to this BDP-95. However, it surely worths $1000 for a 2-channel player, not to mention a universal player, playing all Bluray, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, and a music/picture/movie server via eSATA/USB external hard drive hookup.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • leroyjr1
    leroyjr1 Posts: 8,785
    edited March 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    It's a d@mn good player, I've been using it since early February via the Oppo Early-Release program. I actually connect it directly to the amp via balanced XLR cables for my 2-channel setup; I can configure my speaker level via its Audio processing menu. Playing Bluray music out of the 2-channel? You bet it can. And yes, the tray is still flimsy. I've gone through all four: BDP-83, BDP-83SE, BDP-93, and BDP-95. Even though I liked the additional 2-channel balanced output, I would say it's not worth upgrading from the BDP-83SE to this BDP-95. However, it surely worths $1000 for a 2-channel player, not to mention a universal player, playing all Bluray, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, and a music/picture/movie server via eSATA/USB external hard drive hookup.


    Has there been any comparisons between the 95 and other $1000 players? If so what was the verdict?
  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    It's a d@mn good player, I've been using it since early February via the Oppo Early-Release program. I actually connect it directly to the amp via balanced XLR cables for my 2-channel setup; I can configure my speaker level via its Audio processing menu. Playing Bluray music out of the 2-channel? You bet it can. And yes, the tray is still flimsy. I've gone through all four: BDP-83, BDP-83SE, BDP-93, and BDP-95. Even though I liked the additional 2-channel balanced output, I would say it's not worth upgrading from the BDP-83SE to this BDP-95. However, it surely worths $1000 for a 2-channel player, not to mention a universal player, playing all Bluray, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, and a music/picture/movie server via eSATA/USB external hard drive hookup.

    Well,I don't have neither one,BDP-83SE, or BDP-93.
    PolkAudioClyde
  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited March 2011
    leroyjr1 wrote: »
    Has there been any comparisons between the 95 and other $1000 players? If so what was the verdict?

    This question will need to be answered by others, leroyjr1, since I currently don't have any other $1000 2-channel player to compare. Keep in mind the Oppo 95 utilizes one of the best DAC chips out there.
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited March 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    It's a d@mn good player, I've been using it since early February via the Oppo Early-Release program. I actually connect it directly to the amp via balanced XLR cables for my 2-channel setup; I can configure my speaker level via its Audio processing menu.

    That is not recommended as it squashes the dynamic range. The volume control is done in the digital domain. If you run the volume control on the oppo down below 90 you are losing musical information.
    DMara wrote: »
    Playing Bluray music out of the 2-channel? You bet it can.

    No doubt. My 83SE does it quite nicely as well.
    DMara wrote: »
    And yes, the tray is still flimsy.

    Yeah, but I have seen much worse. Just treat it well and it shouldn't be a problem.

    DMara wrote: »
    I've gone through all four: BDP-83, BDP-83SE, BDP-93, and BDP-95. Even though I liked the additional 2-channel balanced output, I would say it's not worth upgrading from the BDP-83SE to this BDP-95. However, it surely worths $1000 for a 2-channel player, not to mention a universal player, playing all Bluray, DVD, DVD-A, SACD, and a music/picture/movie server via eSATA/USB external hard drive hookup.

    Balanced outs would be nice. They went to toroidal transformers too. But I did decide to stick to my 83SE for now.

    Clyde, I would give it at least a couple hundred hours of break-in before I started judging the SQ. Mine got pretty sweet around 500 hrs. Harshness diminished and stage was bigger and weightier.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • DMara
    DMara Posts: 1,434
    edited March 2011
    vc69 wrote: »
    That is not recommended as it squashes the dynamic range. The volume control is done in the digital domain. If you run the volume control on the oppo down below 90 you are losing musical information.

    Good info to share here, vc69. Thanks :smile: Believe me, I was startled the first time I played music with the volume at the default level of 100. I thought my speakers were gone, too, but the LSi15's wasn't damaged by it (even though my ears were) :biggrin:
    Gears shared to both living room & bedroom:
    Integra DHC-80.3 / Oppo BDP-105 / DirecTV HR24 DVR /APC S15blk PC-UPS
    Living room:
    LSiM707's / LSiM706c / LSiM702 F/X's / dual JL Audio Fathom F113's / Parasound Halo A51 / Panasonic 65" TC-P65VT50
    Bedroom:
    Usher Dancer Mini 2 Diamond DMD's / Logitech SB Touch / W4S STP-SE / W4S DAC-2 / W4S ST-1000 / Samsung 52" LN52B750
    Other rooms:
    Audioengine AP4's / GLOW Audio Sub One / audio-gd NFB-3 DAC / Audioengine N22
    audio-gd NFB-10.2 / Denon AH-D7000
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited March 2011
    DMara wrote: »
    Good info to share here, vc69. Thanks :smile: Believe me, I was startled the first time I played music with the volume at the default level of 100. I thought my speakers were gone, too, but the LSi15's wasn't damaged by it (even though my ears were) :biggrin:

    LoL... yeah, I've hooked mine up direct just to check it out. :wink:

    You may want to consider a passive attenuator like steveinaz has/had. They are relatively inexpensive and about as straight line with a volume control as you can get.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    BlueFox wrote: »
    So what's the story? Is it a better build quality than the Oppo BD83? Is the tray a flimsy thing as a the BD83? How does it sound? Can it play Bluray music out the two channel? Does it seem worth $1000 for a two channel player?

    It's better than the Denon2900,and the Denon is great.
    PolkAudioClyde
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    I am also interested if the 95 cleans up some of the problems with the 83SE..
    1/Flimsy Tray
    2/ Vibration on certain CD's
    3/I get static on certain gold/SACD's
  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    Vc69>"Clyde, I would give it at least a couple hundred hours of break-in before I started judging the SQ. Mine got pretty sweet around 500 hrs. Harshness diminished and stage was bigger and weightier".

    Oh lawd, I just got done (bad English) breaking in the magnificent MIT cables. Here we go again...it's all good and fun,though. thanks, Vc69.
    PolkAudioClyde
  • Toolfan66
    Toolfan66 Posts: 17,243
    edited March 2011
    This thread is worthless without pics!!!!!

    Congrats!!!!
  • BlueFox
    BlueFox Posts: 15,251
    edited March 2011
    Reported.
    Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
    Sony XA-5400ES SACD; Pass XP-22 pre; X600.5 amps
    Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers; SPOD spikes

    Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR on source, Denali 2000 (2) on amps
    Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
    Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables

    Mapleshade Samson V.3 four shelf solid maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
    Three 20 amp circuits.
  • virtualdean
    virtualdean Posts: 286
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    I am also interested if the 95 cleans up some of the problems with the 83SE..
    1/Flimsy Tray
    2/ Vibration on certain CD's
    3/I get static on certain gold/SACD's

    Maybe you got a lemon? They are made in China after all.
    I'll grant you the tray could be beefier, but I've not noticed #2 and #3.
    Do you have anything on top? I had a replica aladdins lamp (bronze) on mine and occassionally would hear "bizzing" sounds. It drove me nuts. I could restart it and it would not come back.. .
    One time it started again and I got up real close..It was the lamp.
    Placed it elsewhere..bizz was gone.
    For peace of mind, it would be good to sell the 83se and get a 95 or a W4S...I wanted to go to the 95 for the XLR connections. I didn't because what, I'm going to buy a new disc player every year?
    Good luck to you

    VD
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    Now that I think about.. I had my pre amp on top o it (Not any more).
    I will see if I still have that problem.Thanks for letting me know.
    Item 3 is driving me crazy.. one CD.. Patricia Barber Cafe Blue..MOFI, Gold, SACD.
    One of my faviourites.
    It has static through it from 4th track on.
    I play it on my std CD player and no issues.
    A friend of mine had a copy of it as well and traded me discs..problem is still there.
  • jayman_1975
    jayman_1975 Posts: 672
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    Now that I think about.. I had my pre amp on top o it (Not any more).
    I will see if I still have that problem.Thanks for letting me know.
    Item 3 is driving me crazy.. one CD.. Patricia Barber Cafe Blue..MOFI, Gold, SACD.
    One of my faviourites.
    It has static through it from 4th track on.
    I play it on my std CD player and no issues.
    A friend of mine had a copy of it as well and traded me discs..problem is still there.

    Nice name.
    Onkyo TX NR 5008 modified by The Upgrade Company
    Oppo BDP 93 modified by The Upgrade Company
    Arcam CD37
    Monitor Audio Gold GS 60
    Revolver Audio Music 5 towers.(surround)
    Vandersteen V2W
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    Now that I think about.. I had my pre amp on top o it (Not any more).
    I will see if I still have that problem.Thanks for letting me know.
    Item 3 is driving me crazy.. one CD.. Patricia Barber Cafe Blue..MOFI, Gold, SACD.
    One of my faviourites.
    It has static through it from 4th track on.
    I play it on my std CD player and no issues.
    A friend of mine had a copy of it as well and traded me discs..problem is still there.

    Over at the AVS thread on the 95, some have noted that when the 95 is in DSD direct to DAC mode that some discs have 'tics' (Peter Gabriel, SO, for example).

    When they switch to PCM to DAC, the 'tics' go away.

    May want to check how you are playing that SACD.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    Thanks Erik.
    I will check out PCM / DSD and advise.
    It is driving me friggin' nuts!!!
  • vc69
    vc69 Posts: 2,500
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey,

    Are the problems you are experiencing with the 83SE or the 93/5?

    If is the 83SE, have you updated the firmware? I haven't had any problems out of SACD/DVD-A for over a year. The problem you are describing was well known and fixed with a firmware update a long time ago.

    If it's the 95, you need to report the problem to Oppo so they can fix it, which they will no doubt. They are awesome about addressing issues and very responsive with firmware.
    -Kevin
    HT: Philips 52PFL7432D 52" LCD 1080p / Onkyo TX-SR 606 / Oppo BDP-83 SE / Comcast cable. (all HDMI)B&W 801 - Front, Polk CS350 LS - Center, Polk LS90 - Rear
    2 Channel:
    Oppo BDP-83 SE
    Squeezebox Touch
    Muscial Fidelity M1 DAC
    VTL 2.5
    McIntosh 2205 (refurbed)
    B&W 801's
    Transparent IC's
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    I tried switching from DSD to PCM.
    The problem dissapesred for a couple of tracks and then returned.
    I switched back to DSD and same thing..the problenm disappeared and the returned.
    Switched back again and same thing.
    Very odd.
    Obviously this is wear the issue lies.
    I will play around with the settings tomorrow and see if I can rectify.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    I tried switching from DSD to PCM.
    The problem dissapesred for a couple of tracks and then returned.
    I switched back to DSD and same thing..the problenm disappeared and the returned.
    Switched back again and same thing.
    Very odd.
    Obviously this is wear the issue lies.
    I will play around with the settings tomorrow and see if I can rectify.

    What happens if you select to play the CD layer only thru the Oppo?

    Just trying to isolate your problem with the SACD layer on this disc, or if you have a 'bad' disc?

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    It plays fine on CD layer.
    I have tried 2 different discs of this recording and I have the same problem with both.
    It is an 83SE, not a 95.
    Sorry for all the spelling errors in the last post.
    That was written after a couple of bottles of red wine.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    It plays fine on CD layer.
    I have tried 2 different discs of this recording and I have the same problem with both.
    It is an 83SE, not a 95.
    Sorry for all the spelling errors in the last post.
    That was written after a couple of bottles of red wine.

    Sounds like it is either the player is having problems with that SACD which Oppo may be able to fix with a firmware update -

    or - its a common problem with that SACD - try googling that title to see if others are noting the same problems.

    If you have access to another SACD player to try it in that may help.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    I played it on my friend's Sony SACD player with no issue.
  • Erik Tracy
    Erik Tracy Posts: 4,673
    edited March 2011
    Bababouey wrote: »
    I played it on my friend's Sony SACD player with no issue.

    Sounds like you've isolated it to an issue with the 83SE.

    You should notify Oppo and see if they are willing to fix the problem with a new firmware update.

    H9: If you don't trust what you are hearing, then maybe you need to be less invested in a hobby which all the pleasure comes from listening to music.
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    I just sent an e mail to the place I purchased it from.
    Thanks for all the advice.
    Glen
  • Bababouey
    Bababouey Posts: 129
    edited March 2011
    I just uploaded the firware update in to the OPPO 83SE.
    Problem fixed.
    Thank you all so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    This was driving me nuts!!!
    Peace at last.
    Glen
    "Winning"