Internet Explorer 9 RC

[Deleted User]

Has anyone used or tried out IE9? I have been using it for the past several days and like it a lot. The graphics is rendered through the video card's gpu instead of through software. Overall, everything seems much smoother and the interface is clean.

Halen

On3s&Z3r0s

Been using the beta for several months... haven't gotten the RC yet. I like 9 a lot better than 8.

cokewithvanilla

have not touched the RC because the beta wouldn't open any pages... it would just crash. I've been using firefox 4 beta... which now hangs every so often.. annoying

MacLeod

I downloaded it and tried it and it caused a HUGE memory leak for some reason. Nobody seems to know why but everybody seems to know its IE9 RC that causes it.

It only affects your gadgets for some reason. Why IE would be affecting gadgets is beyond me but sidebar.exe is the service that runs the gadgets and it would go up to 2GB usage alone. After I uninstalled the RC, Im back down to a normal 65MB.

Shame too, cause it seems to be a great browser. Hopefully they can get that fixed once the real thing hits.

billbillw

People are still using IE? Been using Chrome for the most part for its speed, FireFox when Chrome has trouble with certain pages.

bobman1235

IE keeps improving. Every time they put out a new one I give it a try, but it hasn't yet gotten good enough to replace Chrome or Firefox (I'm almost exclusively Chrome at this point).

cokewithvanilla

billbillw wrote: »

People are still using IE? Been using Chrome for the most part for its speed, FireFox when Chrome has trouble with certain pages.

That's why I refuse to use something like Chrome... why use a browser that is known to have 'trouble' with certain pages :eek:

edit: mainly because those troublesome pages are all my class stuff

bobman1235

Because IE is knwon to have "trouble" with "infecting your computer with giant viruses."

I'll take the rare trouble rendering a page over that.

cokewithvanilla

bobman1235 wrote: »

Because IE is knwon to have "trouble" with "infecting your computer with giant viruses."

I'll take the rare trouble rendering a page over that.

Haha

Well, my idea with browsers is pick the best one you can with the highest market share, for compatibility reasons. For me, that's firefox with Adblock and sometimes noscript.

But IE doesn't infect your computer with viruses, browsing child pron does :biggrin:

ryanjoachim

Opera ftw imo.

I can't stand IE, mostly because of how it lays all the options and such out...but also just because I like Opera better.

bobman1235

cokewithvanilla wrote: »

Well, my idea with browsers is pick the best one you can with the highest market share, for compatibility reasons. For me, that's firefox with Adblock and sometimes noscript.

But IE doesn't infect your computer with viruses, browsing child pron does :biggrin:

AdBlock and NoScript generally cause WAY more incompatibility problems than the rare browser incompatibility.

Browser incompatibilities are caused because some browsers (mostly IE) refused to conform to web standards. So people who were designing websites had to either be standards compliant (so all browsers could work) or IE-compliant (which, until recently, meant being compliant with the browser with the dominant market share). Thankfully, now that Firefox has such a large market share (I just looked it up and was shocked how high it is, actually), those IE-specific things are fewer and further between. I can't remember the last time I hit one.

cokewithvanilla

I'll give you noscript, which is why i said sometimes, but I've never had issues with Adblock.

Yes, I know, but knowing why your browser isn't working with a certain website (and blaming it in microsoft) is not a substitute for having it work. Like I said, mainly my school stuff is what I find is incompatible. I don't generally find this out first hand, I find it out when some kid tries to use the latest browser, like Chrome, because it's cool and finds he cannot turn in his assignment.

I can see why enterprises use IE, and I can see why most home users can get away with Firefox. Other than that, I have noticed, that the more obscure your browser is, the more you tend to see compatibility issues. For example, my school specifically supports IE and Firefox. If you try to get fancy and use chrome, stuff simply doesn't work.

cfrizz

bobman1235 wrote: »

Because IE is knwon to have "trouble" with "infecting your computer with giant viruses."

I'll take the rare trouble rendering a page over that.

What are you talking about? How can a browser give you a virus? I have always used IE, and the 2 times I got viruses in over the 15 years that I have been using a pc has been when I downloaded something stupid.

So long as a person utilizes common sense & doesn't download everything under the sun, & visits safe websites it's extremely difficult to get a virus.

bobman1235

cfrizz wrote: »

What are you talking about? How can a browser give you a virus? I have always used IE, and the 2 times I got viruses in over the 15 years that I have been using a pc has been when I downloaded something stupid.

So long as a person utilizes common sense & doesn't download everything under the sun, & visits safe websites it's extremely difficult to get a virus.

A browser can't "give you a virus." A browser that has security holes can leave you susceptible to viruses. A browser that has security holes AND has hooks into the operating system (like IE does with ActiveX) leaves you even MORE susceptible to viruses.

Generally if you keep your system "patched" you're OK, as these holes are generally patched as they're found, but most people do NOT run Windows Update when they should.

You do NOT have to "download" something to get a virus. Your browser can download things on your behalf without you knowing, especially if it's earlier versions of IE.

Don't get all pissy with me on a subject you obviously have no clue about.

cokewithvanilla

bobman1235 wrote: »

A browser can't "give you a virus." A browser that has security holes can leave you susceptible to viruses. A browser that has security holes AND has hooks into the operating system (like IE does with ActiveX) leaves you even MORE susceptible to viruses.

Generally if you keep your system "patched" you're OK, as these holes are generally patched as they're found, but most people do NOT run Windows Update when they should.

You do NOT have to "download" something to get a virus. Your browser can download things on your behalf without you knowing, especially if it's earlier versions of IE.

Don't get all pissy with me on a subject you obviously have no clue about.

Yes, there's a difference between susceptibility and causation. I think she was just pointing out that without user error, 99.99% of viruses can be avoided. Thing is, I cannot remember the last version of IE that automatically loaded activeX objects without you having to agree with it. And beyond that, you would generally have to visit a shady site to even be given the opportunity to do so.

I can't really remember or think of a situation where a user with IE has, by no fault of their own, gotten a virus. Maybe you can remember such a case.

Also, i'd put not updating your system under the user error category (and I know there have been situations where updates have caused problems, but that is generally not the case, and not a real reason to forgo updating in general.)

bobman1235

It was likely IE6 (I'm not sure either) but until pretty recently IE6 was still a VERY popular browser, because, again, no one ever updates when they should. I'm sure newer versions of IE are much better, but "once bitten twice shy" as they say.

Plus, as a computer guy who dabbles in web design, the lack of standards bothers me. I know to the normal user it's just "behind the scenes nerd bickering" but ... it's important stuff.

cokewithvanilla

I know what you're saying. I worked with a webdesign company back when macromedia still owned flash, and compatibility was an issue. But as you say, it doesn't bother the average user.

Yes, the lack of people updating has continued to be an issue, but hopefully that has been rectified by vista and 7's default policy for automatic updates. I actually can't remember if this policy forces updates on browsers though, I guess we'll find out when IE9 is released.

It's funny how many people pride themselves on their ignorance of computers. I guess it is like any other appliance to some people, they just have to know how to turn it on.

[Deleted User]

I just removed IE 9 because .edu sites would not load. I also noticed that I had to manually connect to my home wireless network everytime I turned on my laptop. After removal, I no longer have the problem.

Halen