DVD Player with SACD capability?

TennMan
TennMan Posts: 1,267
edited February 2011 in Electronics
I have been kicking around the idea of getting a new DVD player. I'm not looking to purchase anything high dollar just an average player. I've noticed that some of them have the capability to play SACD disks. Before coming to this forum a few weeks ago I had never heard of SACD. Is that something that is on it's way out or the coming thing for music CDs?

My system is primarily used for listening to music but I still want to be able to watch a movie now and then so I do need a DVD player since the old one has quit working. Should I select a DVD player that is capable of playing the SACDs?

Thanks for any information.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,959
    edited February 2011
    Yes. I do believe that there is a universal player in the FM now. Let me go check real quick.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,959
    edited February 2011
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • EndersShadow
    EndersShadow Posts: 17,696
    edited February 2011
    there was a similar thread that might we worth reading on this:

    http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116321
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,959
    edited February 2011
    FAAAAk, my bad. That player does not play SACD's. Thanks EndersShadow. I missed the model # by 1, literally. I was thinking the 2910.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,267
    edited February 2011
    Thanks for the info. I'm still not up to speed on the SACD format. Could someone enlighten me on the pros and cons of SACD please? Are disks still being produced in that format? I see they are more expensive. Are they worth the extra cost for a low end system like I own?
    • SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
    • Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    • Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    • Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    • Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
    • SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 51,709
    edited February 2011
    They sound better.
    There are no cons.
    Yes.
    Yeah, so what?
    Doubtful.
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  • cnh
    cnh Posts: 13,284
    edited February 2011
    Wiki is your friend. Just look it up. Essentially SACD resolution is FAR superior (if recorded well, to most other digital formats) see Wiki chart below.

    SACD is a disc of identical physical dimensions to a standard compact disc; the density of the disc is the same as a DVD and it encodes audio using a process known as Direct Stream Digital. The SACD sampling rate is 2.8224 MHz and the resolution is one bit. A stereo SACD recording can stream data at an uncompressed rate of 5.6 Mbps, four times the rate for Red Book CD stereo audio.[2] SACD recordings can have a wider frequency and dynamic range than conventional CDs.

    CD
    Format 16 bit PCM
    Sampling frequency 44.1 kHz
    Dynamic range 96 dB
    Frequency range 20 Hz – 20 kHz
    Disc capacity 700 MB
    Stereo Yes
    Discrete surround Never implemented


    SACD
    Format 1 bit DSD
    Sampling frequency 2.8224 MHz[2]
    Dynamic range 120 dB[2]
    Frequency range 20 Hz – 50 kHz[2]
    Disc capacity 7.95 GB
    Stereo Yes
    Discrete surround Yes

    There are three types of SACDs:[2]
    Hybrid: The most popular of the three types, hybrid discs include a Red Book layer compatible with most ordinary Compact Disc players, dubbed the "CD layer," and a 4.7 GB SACD layer, dubbed the "HD layer."[3]
    Single-layer: Physically a DVD-5 DVD, a single-layer SACD includes a 4.7 GB HD layer with no CD layer.
    Dual-layer: Physically a DVD-9 DVD, a dual-layer SACD includes two HD layers totaling 8.5 GB, with no CD layer. It enables nearly twice as much data to be stored, but eliminates CD player compatibility. This type is rarely used.
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  • silvertuner
    silvertuner Posts: 496
    edited February 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    FAAAAk, my bad. That player does not play SACD's. Thanks EndersShadow. I missed the model # by 1, literally. I was thinking the 2910.

    denon 2900 does play sa-cd.... i would know.... i have owned it... has 3 separate modes as well to push all its concentration to strictly audio playback


    oh and it has a pretty blue LED on the front that lights up when you put a sa-cd in it. really cool mood lighting lol

    some cheap free sony speakers
    psw125
    denon 1610
    3.1 channel because i hate cables ran across the living room like that
  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,959
    edited February 2011
    Damn, my double bad. I clicked the link and read that it did not, then posted back.

    Tell you what. I'll just shut my mouth and say that SACD rocks. That I do know about.

    Sorry, I was just tryin' to help the fella.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
  • geebolt
    geebolt Posts: 215
    edited February 2011
    The Sony BDP-S470 plays SACD and so do some others in the line.
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    Center: Polk CSi A6
    Surrounds: Polk TSi500's
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    Processor/AVR: Emotiva UMC-1
    DAC: Emotiva XDA-1
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    Blu-Ray: Oppo BDP-93
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  • silvertuner
    silvertuner Posts: 496
    edited February 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Damn, my double bad. I clicked the link and read that it did not, then posted back.

    Tell you what. I'll just shut my mouth and say that SACD rocks. That I do know about.

    Sorry, I was just tryin' to help the fella.

    depends on the SA-CD. i dont care for the DSOTM sa-cd. however Brothers In Arms roxorz my boxorz like WHOA. there are some NICE selections for sa-cd, if you are willing to pay the extra, and sometimes its certainly worth it.

    some cheap free sony speakers
    psw125
    denon 1610
    3.1 channel because i hate cables ran across the living room like that
  • TennMan
    TennMan Posts: 1,267
    edited February 2011
    Thanks guys for all your comments. I will do a little research on which SACD player is in my price range and will keep the one in the FS forum in mind. I think a SACD player makes sense now that you guys have gave me enough information about it to help me understand what it's all about.

    Thanks again!
    • SDA 2BTL · Sonicaps · Mills resistors · RDO-198s · New gaskets · H-nuts · Erse inductors · BH5 · Dynamat
    • Crossover upgrades by westmassguy
    • Marantz 1504 AVR (front speaker pre-outs to Adcom 555)
    • Adcom GFA-555 amp · Upgrades & speaker protection added by OldmanSRS
    • Pioneer DV-610AV DVD/CD player
    • SDA CRS+ · Hidden away in the closet
  • silvertuner
    silvertuner Posts: 496
    edited February 2011
    TennMan wrote: »
    Thanks guys for all your comments. I will do a little research on which SACD player is in my price range and will keep the one in the FS forum in mind. I think a SACD player makes sense now that you guys have gave me enough information about it to help me understand what it's all about.

    Thanks again!

    that 2900 is going to beat anything in that 200 price range unless someone is basically giving away another player.

    some cheap free sony speakers
    psw125
    denon 1610
    3.1 channel because i hate cables ran across the living room like that
  • danz1906
    danz1906 Posts: 5,144
    edited February 2011
    Sony 9000es,,,,,Pioneer Dvi79,,,,,,,,Oppo 980H
    Linn AV5140 fronts
    Linn AV5120 Center
    Linn AV5140 Rears
    M&K MX-70 Sub for Music
    Odyssey Mono-Blocs
    SVS Ultra-13 Gloss Black:D
  • silvertuner
    silvertuner Posts: 496
    edited February 2011
    danz1906 wrote: »
    Sony 9000es,,,,,Pioneer Dvi79,,,,,,,,Oppo 980H

    i meant to put in "going to be hard to beat", my apologies... and then comes availability. that sony is a nice unit as well

    some cheap free sony speakers
    psw125
    denon 1610
    3.1 channel because i hate cables ran across the living room like that
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2011
    The Dark Side of the Moon SACD is better than any other format...I should know I own it...like that makes any effin difference but just matching moronic posts.

    Just remember nobody likes their baby called ugly and you will be fine.

    RT1
  • silvertuner
    silvertuner Posts: 496
    edited February 2011
    The Dark Side of the Moon SACD is better than any other format...I should know I own it...like that makes any effin difference but just matching moronic posts.

    Just remember nobody likes their baby called ugly and you will be fine.

    RT1

    yeah, i hate my copy in sa-cd. maybe i didnt let the disc burn-in properly

    some cheap free sony speakers
    psw125
    denon 1610
    3.1 channel because i hate cables ran across the living room like that
  • reeltrouble1
    reeltrouble1 Posts: 9,312
    edited February 2011
    hehehehe.......

    RT1