Power cable connectors..

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edited February 2011 in DIY, Mods & Tweaks
Whatcha using?
I had an OCC (3/4" thick 12ga.:eek:) cable sitting in a drawer for about 2 years.
Today I took it out and put a Wattgate 350i on it with the matching 330i male.
I gotta say (I am a Furutech man, and own over 20 of the better ones) it is AMAZING!
Anyone try these Wattgate gold connectors?
Very, very detailed, organic, and FAST.
Pretty much 3D/makes your system disappear.
Very impressed!
I offered this cable to Nap, but I think I will keep it now.
This is a jaw dropper!
It was nice talking to you folks, as I am probably banned now!:redface:
I don't know who makes this cable (cheap I'm sure), but this damn thing is incredible with the Wattgate golds.
Been in this game for 20 yrs.
Read alot about them on AA (the connectors), but never tried one, I'm hooked!:biggrin:

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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    I need to do my amps. I think I will hard wire them instead of an IEC. Less connections and it would improve the wiring inside. Do you know the best place to source that wire?
    I have been thinking about this stuff for a while.
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=100-790
    or cheaper...
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=100-577
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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    Ben
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 1,225
    edited February 2011
    pepster wrote: »
    Whatcha using?
    I had an OCC (3/4" thick 12ga.:eek:) cable sitting in a drawer for about 2 years.
    Today I took it out and put a Wattgate 350i on it with the matching 330i male.
    I gotta say (I am a Furutech man, and own over 20 of the better ones) it is AMAZING!
    Anyone try these Wattgate gold connectors?
    Very, very detailed, organic, and FAST.
    Pretty much 3D/makes your system disappear.
    Very impressed!
    I offered this cable to Nap, but I think I will keep it now.
    This is a jaw dropper!
    It was nice talking to you folks, as I am probably banned now!:redface:
    I don't know who makes this cable (cheap I'm sure), but this damn thing is incredible with the Wattgate golds.
    Been in this game for 20 yrs.
    Read alot about them on AA (the connectors), but never tried one, I'm hooked!:biggrin:

    Patrick005.jpg

    Uhhhh, I think I'll take that cable. :wink: Ohh, you're keeping it. :mad: Darn !
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    I need to do my amps. I think I will hard wire them instead of an IEC. Less connections and it would improve the wiring inside. Do you know the best place to source that wire?
    I have been thinking about this stuff for a while.
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=100-790
    or cheaper...
    http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=100-577

    I have not tried that Belden.
    From what I have read it is very good sounding cable, but a PITA to work with (its tinned).
    The Carol 12 AWG 3C SJOOW Power Cable is very good sounding power cable.
    You don't think it is a very good performer at first, but it comes around nicely with time, and really makes a great cable.
    Really a sleeper for the money.
    Very easy to work with.

    I am wanting to skip the IEC on a little Rotel I have also (solder it directly to the board).
    I am thinking about trying some Neotech Teflon solid core (14 awg) with some kind of stain relief.
    It has stranded 18/2 now.

    Think that solid core would be too hard to solder Ben?
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2011
    Pepster, I use exclusively Carol and DH Labs. I like DH Labs better and the build quality is excellent for not much more than Carol. Have you tried DH?
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2011
    Ben,
    That 1st link is 12.65 per foot.Do you even need shilded cables for your amps?If so...
    How about this.>> http://www.cryo-parts.com/index.php/ac-cable

    Im going to be ordering some just to try it out and see how it compares to signal cable digital reference.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2011
    I have a 4 foot length of some of that DH labs power plus stuff ben.Ill just give it to you for the price of shipping if you want it.Not sure how much you need though.
    Pm me if you want it.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    polkatese wrote: »
    Pepster, I use exclusively Carol and DH Labs. I like DH Labs better and the build quality is excellent for not much more than Carol. Have you tried DH?

    Yes I have tried it.
    I made several cables out of it.
    The price went up on the DH stuff.:eek:
    Great cable for the money.

    Ben,
    Revolution power has the Belden
    http://www.revolutionpower.com/p/Belden+83803+12+AWG+3+Conductor+Power+Cable/175/

    I have read nothing but great things about that Cryoparts cable and I think I will give it a try very soon.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    pepster wrote: »
    ...Think that solid core would be too hard to solder Ben?
    If you have a hot enough iron it won't be too bad. I like solid conductors for IC's and speaker cables, but for power cables I think the extra capacitance of the heavy gage multi strand is probably better. This is just an opinion, and would require further testing.
    fbm211 wrote: »
    I have a 4 foot length of some of that DH labs power plus stuff ben.Ill just give it to you for the price of shipping if you want it.Not sure how much you need though.
    Pm me if you want it.
    That sounds good. I would like to give it a try. I have the Pangea 14ga wires in my system for the pre, source, and XO. A little shootout might be in order. What do you think about a few of us doing a little power cable pool and see what we come up with for opinions? We could get together a care package for little get togethers to also try a shoot out. It would be nice to have a form to fill out and share opinions at the end so nobody is biased like some people think we might be do to others opinions. Results should be posted at the end of the shootout.
    LMK what you think.
    Ben
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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    Ben
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    I think it would come down to connectors.
    IMHO at least, they are as important as the wire is.
    50/50 crapshoot.
    You can make a cheap cable sound good with good connectors (Oyaide 004's), or you can have great cable with cheaper connectors that sounds good (ie Audience "e" version).

    I think unless you are using some high end exotic cable, it would probably come down to the connectors as to which offers the better sounding performance.

    Just my opinion which has never really been worth much to start with.:biggrin:
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    What I could do is make a 4 foot cable with the DH wire that FBM has graciously offered, and another with some Carol 12/3 cable. This would even the playing field. The Pangea's have molded connectors...
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2011
    The furutech FI-11 cu are the best bang for the buck connectors in my opinion.And even better when sonic craft has thier 20% off sales.
    I, of course prefer the FI-11ag IECs.
    And a shootout sounds great.
    Pangea vs DH Labs vs cryomaxIII vs VH Audio DIY recipie vs Beldin might be a good start.
    Waiting for sonic to have another sale to get me some neotech NEP-3003,hook up wire and some connectors.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    ben62670 wrote: »
    What I could do is make a 4 foot cable with the DH wire that FBM has graciously offered, and another with some Carol 12/3 cable. This would even the playing field. The Pangea's have molded connectors...

    Are you looking for the difference on your amp?
    Or a general comparison as far as which cable sounds best with the widest range of systems?

    The DH and Carol would be a great cable for the latter.
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  • polkatese
    polkatese Posts: 6,767
    edited February 2011
    That sounds like a good exercise Ben. I'll be interested to read your thoughts on Carol vs. DH Labs. I did a shootout back in 2004/5 and thoughts DH sounds better to my taste. But, since I have Carol in several hard to reach places, I never bothered to replace them.
    I am sorry, I have no opinion on the matter. I am sure you do. So, don't mind me, I just want to talk audio and pie.
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    pepster wrote: »
    Are you looking for the difference on your amp?
    Or a general comparison as far as which cable sounds best with the widest range of systems?

    The DH and Carol would be a great cable for the latter.

    My amps are not setup for IEC, and yes I think the DH CArol would be a good shootout. I would like to see if the very inexpensive Carol stacks up well to the DH. Of coarse synergy may come into play.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
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    Ben
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2011
    PM me your addy Ben.And forget the shipping.I offer it as good Karma for the shootout.
    Synergy always pops up as I found out with my Dragon pro2 that doesnt like the DH labs or the furutech FP-314ag.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    Of coarse synergy may come into play.

    In my system, I prefered the Carol over the DH.
    Theres that "synergy".:biggrin:
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  • Systems
    Systems Posts: 14,873
    edited February 2011
    Ben,
    I can't seem to find your address, but if you pm it to me, I will kick in a 4 ft pc of the Carol to compare to the DH.
    I'll pay the shipping.

    Are you going to use the same connectors on ea. for equal comparison?
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  • ben62670
    ben62670 Posts: 15,969
    edited February 2011
    PM being sent.
    Please. Please contact me a ben62670 @ yahoo.com. Make sure to include who you are, and you are from Polk so I don't delete your email. Also I am now physically unable to work on any projects. If you need help let these guys know. There are many people who will help if you let them know where you are.
    Thanks
    Ben
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  • fbm211
    fbm211 Posts: 1,488
    edited February 2011
    Lets not forget the popular Bob Crump power cord.Very affordable too.

    Link>> http://www.audionervosa.com/index.php?topic=2689.0

    Check the links for the original recipie.
    SDA-2BTL with custom IC
    Adcom 565 monoblocks--Monarchy Audio M-10 preamp
    Theta Data Basic Transport--Stello DA100 Signature DAC--Camelot Dragon Pro2 MK III
    Harman Kardon T-55c TT
    DH Labs Q-10 Signature Speaker Cables With Furez silver plated copper bananas
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver Reference AES/EBU
    Revelation Audio Labs Prophecy Cryo-Silver i2s digital cable
    4 Furutech FP-314Ag with FI-11cu Plugs/FI-11AG IECs--- Power Cords
    DH LABS REVELATIONS ICs-amps
    Revelation Audio Labs Paradise cryo-silver ICs-Source to pre
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