CD Player - Will it make a difference?

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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited February 2011
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    I'm curious, did you have to be home for DHL to deliver or did they leave it on your doorstep?

    So far my experience with Jolida.net has also been positive, quick replies to all my emails. I'm wondering how long this current price is going to last, because this is a killer deal.

    I had to be home for my deliver. Ordered on the 9th and will be delivered on the 15th. I would have received it on the 14th had I known it was going to be delivered.
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    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
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    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited February 2011
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    I'm curious, did you have to be home for DHL to deliver or did they leave it on your doorstep?

    So far my experience with Jolida.net has also been positive, quick replies to all my emails. I'm wondering how long this current price is going to last, because this is a killer deal.

    I was home for the delivery but you also can leave a note on the door that you aren't home.
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited February 2011
    I received my JD100 cd player from Jolida.net this morning, delivery only took a week. After I let it warm up the first thing I noticed over my panasonic blue ray was the much improved bass definition, it was tighter and a lot less bloated. The highs had lost that somewhat rough edge I noticed with the blue ray. I was really amazed at what the Jolida did for CD's that I thought sucked on the blue ray, it was like magic, these CD's suddenly sounded much better. What a great buy, for $559 it was a great deal. Now I feel like my Tyler Acoustic Linbrook Signature Systems are getting the source they deserve.
    2-Channel System
    Analog: VPI Traveler TT, Audio Technica 150MLX, Pro-Ject Tube Box DS
    CD Player: Jolida JD-100 Preamp: Cambridge 840E Amp: Odyssey Kismet Stereo
    Spkrs: Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature Systems
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  • erniejade
    erniejade Posts: 6,321
    edited February 2011
    have you changed the tubes out yet? Also remember it does take some burn in time on the tubes.

    I went with EI gold pins, ( per the recommendation of F1) I had svortech in there ( i probably spelled it wrong) and I liked the EI better. BOTH sets of tubes though were an improvement over the originals.
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited February 2011
    The Jolida was an excellent score and I'm really enjoying mine.

    The price now for the JD100 is $629, I guess it all timing.

    Hopefully by this summer I'll swap out the tubes and get a new power cord. :smile:
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  • Bassphil
    Bassphil Posts: 136
    edited February 2011
    I have a Cambridge DAC Magic that sounds great, and I've read great reviews of that CD player. However, when people talk about spending money on higher-end CD players, I like to suggest going the streaming direction with a Squeezebox Touch.

    I have a Marantz SACD player and a Squeezebox touch. For a test, I ripped a regular CD onto a NAS drive. Then I plugged the Marantz and Touch into my Cary Xciter DAC via two identical digital coaxial cables. Finally, I put the CD into the Marantz and hit play, as well as hit play on the Touch and streamed an AIFF file to it. At my listening test party, everyone agreed that streaming the recording to the touch beat the pants off of playing it in a CD player. Keep in mind that the same DAC was doing the conversion, so the big difference was real-time reading of the disc vs. a ripped stream.
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  • markmarc
    markmarc Posts: 2,309
    edited February 2011
    I owned a JD100 for a couple of years, it's a wonderful-sounding player for the money, and is definitely the most musical of the bunch. My one caveat with the Jolida is simply that if you plan on adding a separate DAC in the near future, owning the Jolida isn't your best use of your $$, as the tubes won't be a part of the digital signal path.
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  • Frank D
    Frank D Posts: 10
    edited March 2011
    Is there any difference in quality between the Chinese Jolida and the US Jolida gear. I read that there is lawsuit going on between the two. The Chinese made Jolida is considerably less expensive than the US Jolida.
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  • dragon1952
    dragon1952 Posts: 4,899
    edited March 2011
    Actually it's all made in China. The US version may due some post-production QC checks, but I'm not positive.
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited March 2011
    The Jolida CD players are all made in China, my understanding is that the gear sold by both the Chinese and US Jolida are/were made in the same factory.

    I will say this, the unit I received from Jolida.net (Chinese) has outstanding build quality and the sound quality is terrific. I've had my unit for about 2 weeks so I believe the stock tubes should just about be burned in, I have noticed an improvement during that time. The next step is to acquire some Svetlana tubes!
    2-Channel System
    Analog: VPI Traveler TT, Audio Technica 150MLX, Pro-Ject Tube Box DS
    CD Player: Jolida JD-100 Preamp: Cambridge 840E Amp: Odyssey Kismet Stereo
    Spkrs: Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature Systems
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    I have had this DVD player, for a little over a year now.I used it as a stand alone CD Player. This is the first time, I really listen to it,without it being connected to my Audio Alchemy DAC.Man,I'm hearing inter details,that I didn't hear With Audio Alchemy. this will be short lived,though.Here comes Oppo 95,to take it's place.
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  • dyeraudio
    dyeraudio Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    http://jolida.net/jolida_inc_warning_intro.htm

    This may clear up some confusion about the "2" Jolidas......
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,023
    edited March 2011
    Hello, Obsession18. You are just at the beginning of that Jolida. Oh, my manners.......Congrat's on the purchase and welcome to Club Polk.

    She will respond well to a power cord upgrade and once you start tube rolling she will come to life. The stock tubes pretty much suck. Some tube dampers or isolation footing also helps to tame the harmonics. You think you like what you hear now?

    :eek:

    Have fun. Play hard and enjoy the music.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • phipiper10
    phipiper10 Posts: 955
    edited March 2011
    Sounds like you are firing on all cylinders over there, Enjoy!
    I need new gear, I want that new gear smile, an ahhh tingle in my.....ears!
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  • Obsession18
    Obsession18 Posts: 191
    edited March 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Hello, Obsession18. You are just at the beginning of that Jolida. Oh, my manners.......Congrat's on the purchase and welcome to Club Polk.

    She will respond well to a power cord upgrade and once you start tube rolling she will come to life. The stock tubes pretty much suck. Some tube dampers or isolation footing also helps to tame the harmonics. You think you like what you hear now?

    :eek:

    Have fun. Play hard and enjoy the music.

    I'm thinking about trying a set of the following tubes first:

    Svetlana - $13 each
    Ei Yugo (Cryo treated) - $22 each
    PSVANE - $50 each

    As for a power cord, I have a hard time understanding how it could improve the sound. I am a power engineer so I'm familiar with the ampacity and voltage performance of various size conductors. The JD100 only draws 20 watts so a heavier gauge of wire is not required to avoid a large voltage drop. Then there is the wire that is already in your wall. The only thing I can think of that may offer an improvement is some form of shielding to avoid RF interference.

    I may be wrong about the power cord, I admit I'm still pretty green about this stuff. Can you offer any insite as to how a power cord improves the performance?
    2-Channel System
    Analog: VPI Traveler TT, Audio Technica 150MLX, Pro-Ject Tube Box DS
    CD Player: Jolida JD-100 Preamp: Cambridge 840E Amp: Odyssey Kismet Stereo
    Spkrs: Tyler Acoustics Linbrook Signature Systems
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2011
    Obsession18 wrote: »
    I'm thinking about trying a set of the following tubes first:

    Svetlana - $13 each
    Ei Yugo (Cryo treated) - $22 each
    PSVANE - $50 each

    As for a power cord, I have a hard time understanding how it could improve the sound. I am a power engineer so I'm familiar with the ampacity and voltage performance of various size conductors. The JD100 only draws 20 watts so a heavier gauge of wire is not required to avoid a large voltage drop. Then there is the wire that is already in your wall. The only thing I can think of that may offer an improvement is some form of shielding to avoid RF interference.

    I may be wrong about the power cord, I admit I'm still pretty green about this stuff. Can you offer any insite as to how a power cord improves the performance?

    I have the treasures in mine with about 25 hours. Starting to sound nice but at the moment I still prefer the Sylvania BP 3 mica D getter 5751.

    That may change as the treaure burn in more.
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • acmf74
    acmf74 Posts: 936
    edited March 2011
    Can anyone recommend a shop to buy tubes?

    Thanks.
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  • Bassphil
    Bassphil Posts: 136
    edited March 2011
    Definitely! Jim McShane is THE person, IMHO. Here's his website

    http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane/tubes.htm

    I'd skip trying to find what you need on his site and just drop him an email. He's amazingly knowledgable and really nice. He'll also give you an honest opinion on what tubes would be good for your particular application. He's talked me out of expensive NOS tubes more than once, so he won't try to rip you off.
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,023
    edited March 2011
    Obsession18 wrote:
    Can you offer any insite as to how a power cord improves the performance?
    Unfortunately, no. I have no idea why they work better than a stock cord. I honestly have the same questions you do as to why but I really could care less. All I know is that the Jolida responded differently to a couple of upgraded PC's I have used on her. Most notable between all of them? Probably a quieter noise floor that makes the subtle nuances stand out a tad more. Sound stage placement would rank second IMO.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    danger boy wrote: »
    none of that matters.. cables make the biggest difference. ha ha ha!

    That's Right. MIT ALL THE WAY, BABY.I hear Junior walker saying, Let's do the "SHOTGUN"
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • PolkClyde
    PolkClyde Posts: 662
    edited March 2011
    treitz3 wrote: »
    Unfortunately, no. I have no idea why they work better than a stock cord. I honestly have the same questions you do as to why but I really could care less. All I know is that the Jolida responded differently to a couple of upgraded PC's I have used on her. Most notable between all of them? Probably a quieter noise floor that makes the subtle nuances stand out a tad more. Sound stage placement would rank second IMO.

    What make of PC's DO YOU GUYS RECOMMEND? I have the shotgun cables through out my Gear or rig.
    PolkAudioClyde
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  • thsmith
    thsmith Posts: 6,082
    edited March 2011
    For the money I like PS Audio AC-3, they have removable ground pins just in case. The last one I bought was off Amazom new, 2 meter for a very good price
    Speakers: SDA-1C (most all the goodies)
    Preamp: Joule Electra LA-150 MKII SE
    Amp: Wright WPA 50-50 EAT KT88s
    Analog: Marantz TT-15S1 MBS Glider SL| Wright WPP100C Amperex BB 6er5 and 7316 & WPM-100 SUT
    Digital: Mac mini 2.3GHz dual-core i5 8g RAM 1.5 TB HDD Music Server Amarra (memory play) - USB - W4S DAC 2
    Cables: Mits S3 IC and Spk cables| PS Audio PCs
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  • treitz3
    treitz3 Posts: 19,023
    edited March 2011
    I have used a PS Audio Prelude, Signal Cable Digital Reference, Analysis Plus Power Oval 10 and Nerve Audio HO5A-PC1. The Nerve Audio is currently in use but I have had positive results using all of these.
    ~ In search of accurate reproduction of music. Real sound is my reference and while perfection may not be attainable? If I chase it, I might just catch excellence. ~
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  • dyeraudio
    dyeraudio Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    Another good tube dealer.......
    http://www.audiotubes.com/
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