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Howmuch

This question is about music not HT. As frequency responses differ greatly amongst speakers ,i was wondering if there is a range that most music will be recorded in. I know peoples hearing differs but what recording studios wish you to hear must be within some kind of range. I am not comparing frequency response to quality of sound or how well a frequency is reproduced.
Question about the low end, why do some people say its better to have your speakers produce the low end as opposed to a sub and some say let a sub do it. Obviously you would need to have speakers able to go low enough anyway(once again music, not HT earthquake scenes)

RuSsMaN

A lot of purists will say no subwoofer at all, period. I used to be in that camp. Buy big, full range speakers, or forget about it. That's changed for me through my experience with smaller monitors and shotty rooms in most of our homes (not designed for audio).

I've found that sometimes the best placement for imaging, isn't always the best placement for bass response, even in larger speakers sometimes. I am a firm believer now that subwoofers can provide that best of both worlds scenario, if indeed your best imaging position doesn't gel with bass response in a given room. The key is getting a musical subwoofer (or two), something fast and articulate, that matches well with the speed of your main speakers. The rest is just dialing it in, and getting the blend right.

Cheers,
Russ

Rev. Hayes

Howmuch wrote: »

,i was wondering if there is a range that most music will be recorded in.

Any given music will be recorded and produced in a manner that the engineers and producers think is most appropriate.

Some material if recorded and mastered "hot" for radio play, some is recorded and mastered dead flat for audiophiles.

Barry Gordy (Motown founder notorious for his intense mixing sessions) used to mix 100+ versions of a potential hit song and then go back to #15 because it sounded the best when played back on a cheap car stereo.

The truth as as see it is that there is no "right" setup for all situations.

The real trick is to not worry about it to the point that you forget to listen to the music.

steveinaz

I've read many times that the 500Hz to 1kHz frequencies is a very critical range for peoples' preference or dislike of a speaker.

Erik Tracy

RuSsMaN wrote: »

A lot of purists will say no subwoofer at all, period. I used to be in that camp. Buy big, full range speakers, or forget about it. That's changed for me through my experience with smaller monitors and shotty rooms in most of our homes (not designed for audio).

I've found that sometimes the best placement for imaging, isn't always the best placement for bass response, even in larger speakers sometimes. I am a firm believer now that subwoofers can provide that best of both worlds scenario, if indeed your best imaging position doesn't gel with bass response in a given room. The key is getting a musical subwoofer (or two), something fast and articulate, that matches well with the speed of your main speakers. The rest is just dialing it in, and getting the blend right.

Cheers,
Russ

The opposite argument is also often trundled out by 'experts'- that no bookshelf or tower speaker on the planet is 'properly designed' to do bass - even for music, and that bass duties put too much strain on amps - only a subwoofer and bass management w/ high pass to mains gets you acceptable performance.

Pah.....

Like you said - dialing it in and getting the blend right for what sounds 'right' to you.

ohskigod

RuSsMaN wrote: »

A lot of purists will say no subwoofer at all, period. I used to be in that camp. Buy big, full range speakers, or forget about it. That's changed for me through my experience with smaller monitors and shotty rooms in most of our homes (not designed for audio).

I've found that sometimes the best placement for imaging, isn't always the best placement for bass response, even in larger speakers sometimes. I am a firm believer now that subwoofers can provide that best of both worlds scenario, if indeed your best imaging position doesn't gel with bass response in a given room. The key is getting a musical subwoofer (or two), something fast and articulate, that matches well with the speed of your main speakers. The rest is just dialing it in, and getting the blend right.

Cheers,
Russ

probably the best 2 channel with an integrated sub I heard was at Polkfest 05 at Doro's with the maggies and svs combo. When a room full of hardenned audio enthusiasts keep asking if the sub is on yet the music sounds fantastic, you know your in a good place

Howmuch

Are these purist the same ones that sneak into my house at night and tie up all my cables? You have many excellent bookshelf/mid-sized speakers that I'm sure cant produce the low end like a floor stander with multiple bass cones . I just naturally assumed that you would have to use a sub with them.
I mean would you compare the Lsi9 dookshelf to the Rti-a9 floorstanding (low end output ,not sound quality)