Aston Martin Vantage

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  • SWFalken
    SWFalken Posts: 136
    edited February 2011
    I love Astons. I've had my eye on that particular model for a while now. As tempted as I would be to pull the trigger at or near the price that you are talking about, A. there is a reason that car is on the market that cheap and B. you will still be paying maintenance costs for a $120,000 car. If you buy it, best of luck to you, that car would be dream come true for sure.
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  • Ron-P
    Ron-P Posts: 8,516
    edited February 2011
    Maintenance costs, yes, and insurance costs. Any idea on what that will be?
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  • kawizx9r
    kawizx9r Posts: 5,150
    edited February 2011
    +1

    Can't imagine what insurance would be on that thing. $65/mo. here with full coverage, hell even an unlicensed/uninsured motorist or a hit and run and total my car and I'm covered!

    Beautiful car. You only live once :wink:
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  • gelinas
    gelinas Posts: 226
    edited February 2011
    it's a beautiful car.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,392
    edited February 2011
    F1nut wrote: »
    I said drive trains, not power plants.
    The drivetrain IS the engine(powerplant), along with the transmission(ZF) and the rear differential, which also has nothing to do with anything made by Ford.:wink: Engine management systems were designed by Bosch, which also has done this work for BMW.



    I agree that Ford did much to improve both brands, but thankfully that improvement was made with an open wallet and a light hand, as Aston and Jag were able to preserve their identities and character without giving up their autonomy.

    The Aston is a wonderful car. Please post lots of pics when you get it.:smile:
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited February 2011
    Always loved the looks of the AM. Would imagine you need some coin for the upkeep on that puppy.
    For me, in this economy, I would have a hard time forking over that much for a car. Especially one thats the price of a condo. Maybe best to put that money into real estate, given the bargains out there now. In 10 years you will have made money instead of losing it. On the other hand, if you have the coin, your job is secure, and thats your dream, go for it.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited February 2011
    I'm calling my insurance guy this morning, and am trying to track down maintenance info on the car as well. I'm going to call the local Aston dealer and a few specialty shops that do service on this car and see what I'm looking at.

    If I was paying full price for this car, then those numbers would be insignificant to me because if I've got the coin for the car at full price, then I've got enough money that those costs would be trivial.

    While I appreciate all the advice on whether or not I should spend that kind of money on a car, that's not really what I was looking for in this particular case. To be clear, I know it's not a prudent decision in basically any way you can measure - it's alot of money up front, it'll be expensive to maintain, it gets terrible gas mileage, and if the economy continues on a downward spiral the value of these type of cars is going to continue to drop.

    So in every respect, it's not a smart decision to buy it, and I know that going in. The real question is "By what margin is this a bad decision?", as in how much are maintenance costs, how much is insurance, what do I think the price of gas is going to do, and how quickly and rapidly is our economy going down the tubes.

    As for the deal, I know the guy selling it very well. The full details aren't relevant, but I've agreed to do some networking stuff for him (about a month's worth of work) and we're working out an arrangement where we're taking that off the price of the car, it works out to be mutually advantageous for both of us - he's getting his work done by someone he knows will do it right and is not having to outlay cash to get it done and I'm getting an Aston Martin at less than half price.

    The car is pristine, he's more obsessive than I am about taking car of our cars, so the condition of the car is not at issue here.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited February 2011
    Only you can make those decisions. I guess a few questions I would ask myself are....

    can I afford it ?
    will it be kept in a garage ?
    how often will you drive it ?
    any kids with a bike that may scratch up the sides ?
    Given the cash outlay,to the amount of times you actually drive it, is it worth it ?

    If you have the means, and the ability to keep a car like that in prestine condition, then do it. Can't imagine what insurance would cost for an AM, not like it can be replaced like a Chevy if some bozo in a Blazer decided to run into you.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,392
    edited February 2011
    I would have one just so I could look at it.:tongue::tongue:

    Cars such as these are as much a work of art as anything else, and you don't have to worry about the wife poking your eyes out for staring at it!:biggrin::wink: I suspect insurance will be insane however.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited February 2011
    Holy crap insurance is more than I thought, by a good margin. Liability isn't too bad of course, but no way I'm getting this car without full coverage. I figured insurance would scale proportionately with the value of the car - so this car is worth basically 2-3 times what our Infiniti M is so insurance would be 3x as much worst case, right? WRONG! Insurance on the Aston is over 5x what insurance on the M is, crazy.

    The cost of insurance doesn't rule out getting it, but certainly becomes more of a factor.

    Maintenance isn't actually too bad, unless something breaks then I'm screwed.
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  • tonyb
    tonyb Posts: 32,957
    edited February 2011
    Pretty much why the usual buyer of an AM is pretty much well off and things such as upkeep,insurance costs, are of no concern to them. Don't stretch yourself too thin my friend. Your not intending this to be a daily driver are you ?
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  • Sherardp
    Sherardp Posts: 8,038
    edited February 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    The cost of insurance doesn't rule out getting it, but certainly becomes more of a factor.

    Maintenance isn't actually too bad, unless something breaks then I'm screwed.

    It's like I mentioned, flagships will kill you on maintenance bro. I guess they figure if you have the cash to buy it, then they can charge you rediculous prices. I would also look for some sort of extended warranty, that would cover transmission, any kind of modules (BMW 7 series has about a million), engine repairs, etc. If the insurance is a non-issue and you can get some sort of extended warranty, BUY IT!! Like I said before bro, Live the Dream!. Nice car.
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  • gdb
    gdb Posts: 6,012
    edited February 2011
    Shop around for other insurance carriers/underwriters, I used to subscribe to Hemming's Motor News and there were all kinds of high dollar automobile insurers advertising in there. This isn't gonna' be a "daily driver", is it?:eek:
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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited February 2011
    Sherardp wrote: »
    I guess they figure if you have the cash to buy it, then they can charge you rediculous prices.

    I would assume it's not ALL just markup to screw rich guys. Expensive cars don't have nearly the sales numbers that cheapo cars do, so they can't just bulk produce parts like they can for a Camry.
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  • nooshinjohn
    nooshinjohn Posts: 25,392
    edited February 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    Holy crap insurance is more than I thought, by a good margin. Liability isn't too bad of course, but no way I'm getting this car without full coverage. I figured insurance would scale proportionately with the value of the car - so this car is worth basically 2-3 times what our Infiniti M is so insurance would be 3x as much worst case, right? WRONG! Insurance on the Aston is over 5x what insurance on the M is, crazy.

    The cost of insurance doesn't rule out getting it, but certainly becomes more of a factor.

    Maintenance isn't actually too bad, unless something breaks then I'm screwed.


    Take a look at a supercharged Jaguar XKR. This is essentially the same car as the Aston, though not quite as sexy. The performance is still superb, the car still sexy, and will be much less to insure. The car itself can be had for less than half the cost as well.:wink:
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  • xj4094dg
    xj4094dg Posts: 1,158
    edited February 2011
    Ricardo wrote: »
    Well, Jesse got me thinking for a while, but if Jaguar is in the DNA then all my thoughts on reliability were right on.

    Don't get me wrong. Id' love to own that car. And probably would if I had the money to maintain it, and two or three more cars I could choose from while the AM is in the shop.

    I've driven Jaguars for the last 17 years and I still have one that was bought in 1994 (an XJ40) and has given me no major problems. It still has the original eng. & trans. and is looking and driving great at 170k miles! The only big expense was a head gasket at about 98k miles. I'll never sell this car.

    Now the 2 BMW's I had were crap. Who knows what you are going to get but if properly maintained they will run great for a long time.

    I'm probably going to be ordering the new XJL (its special order only) this year for delivery early next.

    As far as insurance goes, it usually separates the haves from the have-nots when it comes to luxury iron. If you're at all worried about the cost of insurance perhaps a different badge is in order.

    Jag has done me right for almost two decades now...I guess Ricardo had a bad experience with them.

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  • blueboxer
    blueboxer Posts: 621
    edited February 2011
    Not the most ergonomic interior, but definitely one of the most gorgeous interiors I have ever seen. These pieces of craftsmanship are worth appreciating and owning if it falls within your means. A Timex keeps time more accurately than a Rolex, but the Rolex offers much more to the buyer who values it, same with a vehicle like this. Insurance is always a disappointment and to me more of a deal breaker than the vehicle cost. I can always justify a cost within my budget, but being robbed by insurance companies just kills me.
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  • F1nut
    F1nut Posts: 50,494
    edited February 2011
    nooshinjohn wrote: »
    The drivetrain IS the engine(powerplant), along with the transmission(ZF) and the rear differential, which also has nothing to do with anything made by Ford.:wink: Engine management systems were designed by Bosch, which also has done this work for BMW.



    I had read differently, but what do I know anyway.
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  • stuwee
    stuwee Posts: 1,508
    edited February 2011
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited February 2011
    To follow up...

    We decided not to get the Aston. As beautiful as it is and as good of a deal as it was, it's really just above my pay grade. I could afford the car itself, but the maintenance and really the insurance on it are just too much for me to shoulder.

    It would've been nice, but really just not a smart move for us right now. I sorta knew that going in, it was really the insurance costs that really caught me off guard.

    Thanks to everyone for their input.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,763
    edited February 2011
    A very mature and responsible decision, by the sound of it.
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  • spock 2054
    spock 2054 Posts: 163
    edited February 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    To follow up...

    We decided not to get the Aston. As beautiful as it is and as good of a deal as it was, it's really just above my pay grade. I could afford the car itself, but the maintenance and really the insurance on it are just too much for me to shoulder.

    It would've been nice, but really just not a smart move for us right now. I sorta knew that going in, it was really the insurance costs that really caught me off guard.

    Thanks to everyone for their input.

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  • bobman1235
    bobman1235 Posts: 10,822
    edited February 2011
    Sounds like a good excuse to buy yourself something nice, but more reasonable :)
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  • zingo
    zingo Posts: 11,258
    edited February 2011
    If you can barely afford it, probably not a great buy. I've considered a number of cars that I could just afford including the Mercedes CL AMG, but leaving yourself too tight on money doesn't make it worth the purchase to me.
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  • Ricardo
    Ricardo Posts: 10,636
    edited February 2011
    Now you can start looking at all those cars that you can afford and still have some extra money left!!! I love car shopping.
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  • AsSiMiLaTeD
    AsSiMiLaTeD Posts: 11,726
    edited February 2011
    We don't really need a car, I wasn't car shopping or anything, this was just a deal that I had a line on.

    We're perfectly happy with our 2010 4Runner and his little half step brother Infiniti M, although I do also love car shopping.
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  • Danny Tse
    Danny Tse Posts: 5,206
    edited February 2011
    AsSiMiLaTeD wrote: »
    To follow up...

    We decided not to get the Aston. As beautiful as it is and as good of a deal as it was, it's really just above my pay grade. I could afford the car itself, but the maintenance and really the insurance on it are just too much for me to shoulder.

    What about this one?

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  • fatchowmein
    fatchowmein Posts: 2,637
    edited February 2011
    Danny Tse wrote: »
    What about this one?

    2011-aston-martin-cygnet-concept.jpg

    Danny, we're in Dallas. Those types of cars are used for parking bumpers for our trucks and SUV's.
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  • mhardy6647
    mhardy6647 Posts: 33,763
    edited February 2011
    Probably a completely irrelevant comment, but I'll offer it anyway.... FWIW, my strategy is to drive a cheap car and retire at 55. Sort of a value-judgment thing. YMMV, of course.

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  • billbillw
    billbillw Posts: 6,741
    edited February 2011
    The reason for the 5x increase for insurance on the Vantage is due to its nearly all aluminum construction. I also think much of it is riveted/bonded/glued. This makes for UBER-expensive body shop repairs.

    The Vantage is an awesome car. Truly an exotic to be drooled over. Alas, not meant to be it seems.
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